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 05/15/2003 02:48:00 PM · #1
As the result of my earlier thread, Change of Pace, Please Comment,
I did an Adobe Gamma calibration on my monitor. I noticed quite a significant change so I have redone my entry for the "Glass" challenge. If you could take the time to let me know if you think the redo looks better or worse than the original I would appreciate it.
Thanks.
Original

Redo after monitor calibration
 05/15/2003 02:53:02 PM · #2
Better. I quite liked the soft tones of the original, but the new one has more impact.

BTW, for what it's worth, that was my favourite shot of that challenge.
 05/15/2003 02:54:22 PM · #3
I like the redone one better, too. It has a darker background, giving the light colors more definition. Of course, this is my monitor at work, so who knows how good the calibration here is.
 05/15/2003 03:00:58 PM · #4
I guess I'm on the right track.
Thanks a bunch!
Dick
 05/15/2003 03:03:15 PM · #5
I like the new one better too, but either is nice.
Autool, would you have a look at my glass entry (place 179) and tell me how it looks after your recal. Was my photo just not interesting?
Thanks, David
 05/15/2003 03:15:50 PM · #6
the revised shot is awesome. I would have scored it higher. The colors really stand out now. Good job autool.
05/15/2003 03:23:59 PM · #7
Originally posted by David Ey:
I like the new one better too, but either is nice.
Autool, would you have a look at my glass entry (place 179) and tell me how it looks after your recal. Was my photo just not interesting?
Thanks, David


With my newly calibrated monitor I don't see it the same as I did when I voted. The colors POP now, where they didn't as I recall before. There are four things that I didn't like about your shot. The edge of the glass shelf cuts the glassware in pieces with a diagonal line. The very hot spot on the bowl. Your reflection in the right most glass. The totaly different look of the bottom/lower glass. It looks like an optical illusion, which takes the form away that is made by the others.

I only gave you a 4 when I voted which would have been a 5 now. With so many pictures to evaluate each week I feel that some pictures get judgement passed much too quickly and a new way needs to be developed, to be fair with everyone.
 05/15/2003 03:27:50 PM · #8
Originally posted by Sonifo:
the revised shot is awesome. I would have scored it higher. The colors really stand out now. Good job autool.


You weren't one of the "1's" were you? Heh, Heh.
Thanks for the support!
 05/15/2003 03:29:18 PM · #9
Hrm. The second one looks ridiculous dark on my screen.

How does one find/do a monitor calibration? I might well need one. :->
 05/15/2003 03:34:24 PM · #10
the redone one is slightly better, but both are very good. The only thing that really bothered me about the image was the grey. I found it rather unappealing. Overall, a nice shot. I didn't vote on the glass challenge, but I would have given this a 7.
 05/15/2003 03:37:15 PM · #11
Originally posted by autool:
Originally posted by Sonifo:
the revised shot is awesome. I would have scored it higher. The colors really stand out now. Good job autool.


You weren't one of the "1's" were you? Heh, Heh.
Thanks for the support!


No I never give a 1 unless it is so bad and out of focus or is really cruel and off topic.
 05/15/2003 03:44:15 PM · #12
Sonifo:I hope you noticed I was just kidding. I very seldom give less than a 3 myself. Like you they have to be getting pretty bad to go lower.
 05/15/2003 03:47:14 PM · #13
Originally posted by eloise:
Hrm. The second one looks ridiculous dark on my screen.

How does one find/do a monitor calibration? I might well need one. :->


I you are using Photo Shop, all I did was go to the Control Panel and double click on Adobe Gamma and follow the Wizard. That's with a PC, I can't help if you have a Mac.
 05/15/2003 03:57:57 PM · #14
Nope, Photoshop is far too beefy a program for me to have any idea where to start using it (besides which, I don't exactly have the $700 to spare). I do my image-edits in ACDSee, and sometimes view EXIF in PIE. If I need to mark out something (an address or some such - not on DPChallenge shots), I make it a BMP and do it in Paint, just to give you an idea of the primitivity of tools I'm working with here. :->
 05/15/2003 04:06:33 PM · #15
Originally posted by eloise:
Hrm. The second one looks ridiculous dark on my screen.

How does one find/do a monitor calibration? I might well need one. :->


HA! We found one of those too-dark-commenters! :)

The second one is nice on my screen and could even be darker...
This is why submitting a low-key picture is risky, because people with differently calibrated monitors will see the image very differently...
 05/15/2003 04:10:18 PM · #16
Thank you Autool, for your honest evaluation.
 05/15/2003 09:14:05 PM · #17
Another great point at calibrating your monitor each month (recommended).
As for programs for Mac, the built in one works ok, but there is a program called SuperCal which is outstanding!!

tracy
 05/15/2003 09:55:06 PM · #18
original is definetly better (_ _)
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05/15/2003 10:15:27 PM · #19
Originally posted by Dim7:
original is definetly better (_ _)
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What do you consider the difference in the two might be? Is one too dark or are the colors washed out? I am curious to know how you see it on your monitor.
Thanks for the contribution.
 05/16/2003 05:06:21 AM · #20
Autool: I played around in Fireworks with brightness/contrast and created this. In my opinion it is a more striking image, with the light on a much darker surface. Oh, and I shrunk it so it doesnt mess up the forum thread too much :)


05/16/2003 09:45:35 AM · #21
Ben,
I like what you have done however there are certain aspects of the picture that I like better on my modified picture better.

I worked pretty hard to get the crystal clearness of the prism to show against the shadow that was cast by the light. I was never real happy with my results, but at the same time I was taken aback with what I did get.

Something I never mentioned is that the background in this picture is actually white whith all of the darkening the result of shadows. I shaped the beam of light with cardboard barriers to intentionally throw shadows behind and around the prism. I used a mirror to redirect the refracted light beam back through the prism to get the color to show on the front sides. Normaly the rainbow effect is just cast off,or projected away, and you have to get something for it to strike against to get an image. The mirror enhanced the whole image tremendously.

I had a lot of fun with this and also learned a little more about light in itself. This thread has been helpful to me and as a result I think my monitor is much nearer to calibration than it had been.

Thank you everybody!

Dick
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