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01/06/2009 07:31:30 PM · #1
I can't seem to shut off my onboard flash when I'm using my SB600 remotely. I had the same problem with my D300 and now D700 but not with previous cameras.

Help!
01/06/2009 07:41:11 PM · #2
Discussed here.

Same with all Nikon "builtin-commander" cameras.

Essentially, the onboard flash is used for communications with the remote groups, so you cannot *completely* turn it off. You can adjust it's setting during the actual exposure (and verify it is actually "off") in your CSM menu, under Commander Mode (there is a separate setting for the onboard flash value vs. your remote groups) -- but even when it's "off", it will still fire a short communication burst to trigger the remote flash(es).
01/06/2009 07:42:55 PM · #3
Originally posted by pawdrix:

I can't seem to shut off my onboard flash when I'm using my SB600 remotely. I had the same problem with my D300 and now D700 but not with previous cameras.

Help!


There was a discussion here a while back that says the onboard cant be turned off, as that is how it communicates with the other flash. I'd talk with these folks.

Matt
01/06/2009 07:46:02 PM · #4
You can get a nikon part which covers the onboard flash but still allows the IR communication. I got it as part of the R1 lighting kit and it's perfect for just what you are looking for. Not sure if you can buy it on it's own though.

What I used to do before that was cover the flash with a piece of cloth or tissue, it didn't block the light out but it diffused it fairly heavily so it wasn't an issue any more.
01/06/2009 10:38:30 PM · #5
As others have said, the onboard flash controls the remote flash by sending light pulses. However, in commander mode you still set the power output of the onboard flash, or disable it.


In the screenshot above, the built-in flash is set to "TTL". In this mode, it WILL fire during the exposure. You want to set it to "--". It will still preflash to control the other groups, but will not fire during the exposure.

Some people prefer the IR cover so the the preflash doesn't confuse/disturb the subject.

Message edited by author 2009-01-06 22:38:46.
01/07/2009 07:20:16 AM · #6
Thank you for the advice BUT what a disaster I am with this thing. Now, it won't fire remotely at all. LOL

For today, it doesn't matter. Today I'm shooting someone who's being sworn in to the New York City Council at City Hall. So, I won't be using the flash remotely. I may in fact, not use it at all if possible.

However, I'm going to find someone to give me a full tutorial and design a cheat sheet. It seems each time I break the thing out I need to re learn from the beginning. It blows...
01/07/2009 07:51:26 AM · #7
If it isn't firing, make sure to check that your body and SB600 are on the same channel and group, that your onboard is set to Commander mode, and that your remote is set to remote. Also ensure that the IR receiver on your flash is angled towards your onboard. Depending upon the environment, this may or may not be crucial (IE indoors at close distances, I've found the facing to be irrelevant, and even outdoors sometimes). Also, very harsh lighting (especially outdoors) may cause the CLS system to not fire.
01/07/2009 08:01:59 AM · #8
Make sure you have the flash and camera set to the same channel and group. Also make sure the receiver is pointed towards the camera. And a stupid thing I do frequently....is not have my onboard flash up. results in a big 'DUH' as I look to see why it didn't flash!

edit: what spiritualspatula said

Message edited by author 2009-01-07 08:03:09.
01/07/2009 08:17:15 AM · #9
i found the repeatability / functionality got much better after acquiring the su-800
(easier to setup as well)
01/07/2009 08:28:41 AM · #10
Originally posted by dassilem:

Make sure you have the flash and camera set to the same channel and group. Also make sure the receiver is pointed towards the camera. And a stupid thing I do frequently....is not have my onboard flash up. results in a big 'DUH' as I look to see why it didn't flash!

edit: what spiritualspatula said


Hahaha, also guilty of this one! It's such an anti-climax as well, all that preparation, you press the shutter button, click and nothing else.
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