Differences

This shows you the differences between two versions of the page.

--- wpl_integration [2007/02/25 03:19] – created langdon
+++ wpl_integration [2026/01/10 14:10] (current) – external edit 127.0.0.1
@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
-====== WPL Integration ======
+====== DPChallenge League Play ======
 ===== Goals =====
-  * The process should be completely streamlined such that there's no burden of work on any one individual or group of individuals.
+  * To integrate to the point where there's no burden of work on any single individual or group of individuals.
-  * To keep the same fun, exciting, and driving forces in play that made Seasons 1-4 of the WPL such a success.
+  * To keep the same fun, exciting, and driving forces in play that made Seasons 1-4 such a success while considering all potential improvements.
-  * To consider all potential improvements, but consider how they will affect the two goals above and our mission statement.
-====== Season 5 ======
+===== General =====
-===== Overview =====
+  * Urge participants to work together to get advice on composing and post processing their photographs before the challenge.  Strictly forbidden users to edit other's photographs for entry.
-  * Team Limits:
+===== Teams =====
-  *
-===== Team Creation =====
+  * 2 leagues <html><font color="red">(names?)</font></html>
+  * 2 conferences per league (Northern + Southern; Eastern + Western)
+  * 3 divisions per conference (A, B, C)
+  * 6 teams per division (for a total of 72 teams)
+  * 5 players per team minimum (requiring a minimm of 360 participants)
+  * 19 players per team maximum (allowing for a maximum of 720 participants)
-  * Should existing teams be Grandfathered in?
+==== Team Creation ====
+  * Team Captains must be SC or Members.
+  * There is an enrollment period that lasts 5 days.  Enrollment opens on Wednesday at midnight EST.  When the number of teams hits the limit, enrollment closes.
+  * There is an invitational period that lasts 2 days prior to open enrollment (Monday at midnight EST).  All teams in the previous season from Divisions A and B, and the top 4 teams from Division C will be invited to join the new season first.
+==== Team Placement ====
+==== Free Agents ====
 ===== Week-To-Week =====
-====== Season 6 And Forward ======
+==== Voting ====
+  * Team voting will be prohibited.  Users will see their team's submissions beside their own on the voting pages.
+  * Teams will be given one private forum thread per season.  These threads would be accessible to SC, but not constantly monitored.
+==== Scoring ====
+  * Integrate Teams into the [update] button or include an overview of how your team is doing in the current challenges.
+===== Post-Season Events =====
+<html></div><span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;">
+  <br><br><hr><br><br>
+  Everything above this point is solidified.<br><br>Everything under this point is speculation/discussion/brainstorming.
+  <br><br><hr><br><br>
+</span><div></html>
+====== Notes, Ideas, Unanswered Questions ======
+===== General =====
+  * How do the divisions work?  [[http://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=touch&FORUM_THREAD_ID=546742&FORUM_POST_ID=3374479|Manic's Idea]].  [[http://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=jump&FORUM_THREAD_ID=546742&FORUM_POST_ID=3375122|Bear_Music's Idea]].  GeneralE's Idea [[http://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=jump&FORUM_THREAD_ID=546742&FORUM_POST_ID=3384118|#1]], [[http://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=jump&FORUM_THREAD_ID=546742&FORUM_POST_ID=3403138|#2]], [[http://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=jump&FORUM_THREAD_ID=546742&FORUM_POST_ID=3404230|#3]].  Scott's Proposal [[http://www.worldphotoleague.com/admin/WPL_proposal.html|#1]], [[http://www.worldphotoleague.com/admin/WPL@DPC.htm|#2]].
+  * Fantasy teams (like Fantasy Football) for fun?
+===== Teams =====
+  * **Number of teams?**  The [[http://www.dpchallenge.com/poll_results.php?POLL_ID=158|public poll results]] suggest 412 Members are definitely interested in joining a team and 170 Members might be.  The poll was limited to Members only, but there are only 5 Registered Users participating in Season 4.  We'd need 59 teams to support all "definite" Members and 84 teams to support all "Definite" and "Maybe" members.
+  * Team profiles (like user profiles) with information and history.
+  * **Substitutions:** (Scott): All teams will be allowed one hardship substitution during a regular season. The captain must submit a ticket to the SC and there reason for the substitution must comply with all the substitute photographer rules. SC will validate, by majority, if the teams request is validated or not.  If the SC finds that the teams request is valid the photographer will be replace by a standby photographer, randomly picked (automated).
+==== Team Creation ====
+  * Should we put an average vote cap on team creation?  This includes averages too high OR too low.  Or do we care about averages being too low?
+  * **Process Idea**: (Langdon) What I had in mind: (1) Someone wants to lead a team, so they post to the forums and get a minimum number of other people interested (let's say 4). (2) The team leader uses a "Create Team" interface that asks for all necessary details (team name, logo, list of members. (3) An invitiation is sent to all other members who must accept the request before the team is created officially. (4) Upon acceptance from all invited members, the team is officially created and added to the season. (5) We announce that team creation will open on say March 1st at midnight... everyone who wants to participate should be around to create their teams as spots could fill up quickly. (6) Once the team limit is hit, access to the team creation interface let's everyone know that this season is full and offers users a way to sign up to the free agent list.
+  * Since we only require 5 members to create and run a team, should a team with only 5 players have the option mid-season to add up to 5 more members?  Or perhaps just 1 player to coincide with the substitution rule?  Or is this generally unfair?
+==== Team Placement ====
+  * How does a team get placed into a league, conference, and //initially// a division?
+==== Free Agents ====
+  * People who are interested in joining a team, but don't know anyone creating a team and don't want to create one themselves can join the Free Agent pool.  Team creators can pick free agents from the pool.  A free agent can be invited by multiple teams, but once he/she chooses a team, he/she is no longer in the pool.
+  * This might suck with the time limit thing, or it might just be more interesting.  If a free agent gets one invite, they have to either decide quickly if they want to join this team, or hold out for perhaps another offer.
+  * Free agents who were not picked automatically get placed on the Standby Photographer list after the team selection period is over.  These free agents can be used for substitutions.
+===== Week-To-Week =====
+==== Voting ====
+==== Scoring ====
+  * Awards? ribbons/trophies given weekly, or just for the whole season?  MVP per team?  Most improved?
+  * Scores are calculated weekly.
+  * Only regularly scheduled challenges count (is this necessary?  was it designed only to cut down on work load?  or was it designed because of invitiational challenges not being fair to some teams?).
+  * Top scoring image per user for the week is used.
+  * Top 4 (out of potentially 7) scores are used for the total team average for the week.
+===== Post-Season Events =====
+  * Playoffs?
+  * Period of downtime in between seasons?
+====== Schedule / Work-Flow ======
+===== Pre-Season (16 Days; Apr 23rd - May 8th) =====
+==== Season Announcement (1 Day; Apr 23rd) ====
+  * Announce Schedule
+    * Give users an overview of league play and how it will work
+    * Give users a heads up for when Sign-Ups will begin so they can arrange their teams
+    * Invite users to join the Free Agent Pool
-===== Team Creation =====
+==== Free Agents (7 Days; Apr 23rd - May 6th) ====
+  * Users looking to join a team can join the Free Agent list prior to Sign-Ups
+  * ?Free agent list is public so that arrangements can be attempted to be made before Sign-Ups occur via PM?
+  * ?Free agent list can be sorted by a number of criteria (average vote, # of challenges entered, etc)?
-  * Should teams from the previous season get preferential treatment as far as getting into the next Season?
+==== Sign-Ups (2 Days and 5 Days; Apr 30th - May 6th) ====
+  * Team Creation
+    * Previous league winners (includes existing WPL teams for Season 1) are invited to create their teams on Monday and Tuesday
+    * The general public is then invited to create their teams on Wednesday
+    * Team captains create teams by specifying the following criteria:
+      * Team Name
+      * No less than 4 and no more than 9 other team members
+      * Optional team logo
+    * The team is not "finalized" until a minimum number of 4 team members accept the invitation
+    * Captains can select potential team members from the Free Agent Pool
+      * There's no limitation on who you can invite from the Free Agent Pool (except for free agents who have already accepted another invitation)
+      * If someone you invited joins another team, you get an email notification about it so you can invite someone else
+    * For team captains that headed up teams in previous seasons, their sign-up screen will list prior teams, and they'll have the chance to "use existing team" for new season, but will be under the same rules as everyone else (team members must accept before the deadline/team limit is reached)
+      * Captains need ability transfer ownership to a new captain (see more below)
+  * Sign-ups continue until "finalized" team limit is reached (72)
-====== Notes And Ideas ======
+==== Line-Up Announcement (1 Day; May 7th) ====
+  * Sunday night rollover will need to configure the whole season and automatically announce the line-up
+    * If team limit was never reached, figure out which teams to drop, and/or which divisions to drop
+    * Seed teams by recent averages (average the last 5 submissions for each person per team)
+    * Place teams in conferences/divisions/etc
+  * Round 1 begins immediately with the Member Challenge announced Monday
-**Main Concerns**
+===== Round 1 (16 Days; May 7th - May 22nd) =====
+  * Includes 1 Member Challenge on May 7th
+  * Includes 2 Exclusive Open Challenges on May 9th
+  * Results for above two challenges will be available on May 23rd
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 1 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 1
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 2 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 2
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 3 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 3
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 4 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 4
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 5 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 5
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 6 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 6
+  * etc.
-- How to make the WPL more of an interactive learning experience for the participants?
+===== Round 1 Results (1 Day; May 23rd) =====
-- How to make the system fair for everyone, and prohibit team voting?
+  * Results automatically posted on rollover
-- Whether WPL should be based on a separate, additional challenge or run as it has been now?
-- How to formulate (and possible reformulate teams) if necessary?
-- The possibility of WPL being a sister-site to DPC?
-Below each key item are discussion points that have been brought up pertaining to each.
+===== Round 2 (16 Days; May 14th - May 29th) =====
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 1 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 2
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 2 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 3
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 3 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 4
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 4 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 5
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 5 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 6
+  * World League:Northern Conference:Blue Division:Team 6 vs World League:Southern Conference:Blue Division:Team 1
+  * etc.
-**Making the WPL a Learning Experience**
+===== Round 2 Results (1 Day; May 30th) =====
-- allow teams to work together to get advice on composing and post processing their photographs before the challenge.
+===== Round 3 (16 Days; May 21st - Jun 5th) =====
-- gets tricky because you don’t want people post-processing FOR someone else.
+===== Round 3 Results (1 Day; Jun 6th) =====
-- how to contain the sharing to just team challenges (if those challenges are separate), meaning that once we sanction "group efforts" on individual shots for team challenges, we don't want this to trickle over to solo challenges (again, if they are separate).
-- each team could have a private forum thread to discuss images and get feedback.
-- would SC monitor these forums?
-**Fairness and Team Voting**
+===== Round 4 (16 Days; May 28th - Jun 12th) =====
+===== Round 4 Results (1 Day; Jun 13th) =====
-- Intra-team voting would disabled completely (you'd see your teammates images at the bottom of the voting window like you see your own now).
+===== Round 5 (16 Days; Jun 4th - Jun 19th) =====
-- Or intra-team voting enabled, but all votes on teammate images would be tossed at rollover.
+===== Round 5 Results (1 Day; Jun 20th) =====
-**Extra Challenge**
+===== Round 6 (16 Days; Jun 11th - Jun 26th) =====
+===== Round 6 Results (1 Day; Jun 27th) =====
-- A weekly Friday challenge that would be ONLY available for teams
+===== Round 6 Results (1 Day; Jun 27th) =====
-- The upside to the team challenge is that those not on a team wouldn't feel like they (the teams) had an unfair disadvantage by being able to discuss entries.
-- The downside is that non-team members may feel left out or "cheated" out of challenges.
-- Ribbons for team competition should be different, or maybe trophies.
-- If we don’t separate challenges, will people not on a team feel like they are unfairly up against 6 people who have had Larus mentoring them?
-- Part of the fun is to enter more than one challenge per week and let your personal best count for that week.
-- Extra challenge would increase our workload, make WPL even more exclusive to non-players.
-**Teams**
+===== Regular League Results (1 Days; Jun 27th) =====
+  * All results will be calculated on the 27th
+  * 6 winners will be calculated
+    * World League:Blue Division
+    * World League:Red Division
+    * World League:Yellow Division
+    * Global League:Blue Division
+    * Global League:Red Division
+    * Global League:Yellow Division
+  * Winner calculated by most wins, if a tie exists, the better average during the 6 rounds will be the deciding factor
-- If you're on a team with 6 other people in season 1, then you cannot be on a team with any of those 6 in season 2.
+===== Playoffs Round 1 (19 Days; Jun 27th - Jul 15th) =====
-- Switching keeps things dynamic, and teams semi-fair.
+  * 1 round to decide a winner between:
-- People get comfortable and happy with the same group and might not want to change after a season.
+    * the three teams in the World League
-- Teammates form good friendships and enjoy working together, don’t want to switch.
+    * the three teams in the Global League
-- If we chose to stay with the same group, then Bear, Goodman, BryanBrazil, Scalvert, etc. become off-limits as mentors to others. As a learning tool, that's a serious downside. Mixing up the groups offers more people more opportunities to learn.
+  * Team with the best average out of each set of 3 goes on to the final playoffs
-- Perhaps complete re-formation isn't required, but teams have to give up players for free-agency, and draft from a pool of folks desiring to be on a team. We could have a simple draft-pick system, where the bottom-finishing teams get early draft choices, and perhaps first choice of free agents.
+  * 19 days because we're starting on an Exclusive Open Challenge and ending on a Member Challenge (Sunday)
-- Even if teams must be reformulated, members should get to choose their own teams.
-- Part of the camaraderie is based on team name.. people might not feel the same love for their team if it doesn't represent who they are as a person.
-**WPL as a Sister Site**
+===== Playoffs Round 1 Results (1 Day; Jul 16th) =====
+  * Results posted, etc.
-- same editing rules, layout, workings, usernames
+===== Playoffs Round 2 (16 Days; Jul 16th - Jul 31st) =====
-- different forums, profile pages and challenges
+  * The two remaining teams from Playoffs Round 1 are left and compete to be the season winner
-- could make clearer specific rules for teams
-- DPC folks who didn’t want to play wouldn’t feel as left out
-- Easily ignored
-- Loses, I think, half the appeal of the WPL, which is improving your own average and your own portfolio on DPChallenge
-- Sister site would distract form DPChallenge challenges.
-**Misc**
+===== Season Results (1 Day; Aug 1st) =====
-- Members Only or open to Registered Users (as I believe it is now)?
+===== Other Notes =====
+==== Onwership Transfer ====
+  * A captain, no longer wanting to lead a team, can transfer captainship to another Member of DPChallenge (team member or not)
+  * Captain should make a request through some interface
+  * Once the request is made, each team member gets an email requesting a change
+  * All team members must agree to the change before it happens (or maybe a small percentage?)
+  * We'll need to keep a history of prior captains
+  * During next season team creation, only the current captain can recreate the team
+  * Transfer is an option available during team creation in case the captain doesn't want to continue, but team members want to maintain team stats
+  * ?Transfer is an option in the middle of the season?
+  * ?Captain becomes a member of the team when he steps down, or is removed from the team?