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Tyndall Gorge
Tyndall Gorge
hahn23


Photograph Information Photographer's Comments
Challenge: Rock, Paper, Scissors II (Basic Editing)
Camera: Apple iPhone 4S
Location: Rocky Mountain National Park, Estes Park, CO
Date: Feb 3, 2012
Aperture: 2.4
ISO: 64
Shutter: 1/1346
Galleries: Landscape, Black and White
Date Uploaded: Feb 4, 2012

 On the trail to Dream Lake after the early February snowstorm.

Tyndall Gorge. This is the Tyndall Creek drainage area below Dream Lake with origin at Tyndall Glacier. Downstream it merges with Chaos Creek and further downstream is a tributary to Glacier Creek.

[Feb. 9th, 2012 07:19:26 AM]

People are offering punitive votes on this. During the image submission period, we had a big snowstorm. ALL the rocks were buried in deep snow. It was my bad luck to have the rocks buried. It's okay for people to vote low on this, if it makes them feel better about themselves. I still like the image very much.

[Feb. 11th, 2012 06:38:16 PM]

The rocks are very visible. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[Feb. 12th, 2012 09:31:23 AM]

Okay, I marked all the comments as helpful. And, I admit there is snow covering everything. I suppose if I had shown an image of a rock on my kitchen table, it would have been voted up. Hey, my challenge entry is an artistic presentation. LOL!!!!

[Feb. 12th, 2012 11:47:06 AM]

I guess it's possible the large, bus-sized glacial erratic boulders in this scene are not recognized as "rocks" to some people. But, they are grand rocks. I understand boulders with a snow cap may be outside of the experience of some. That said, there are rocks in this scene. They are visible and focal points in the composition. For those who voted DNMC on this image, you voted unfairly.

Wow, that is a lot of DNMC votes for a pretty good image with big rocks visible.

Statistics
Place: 93 out of 106
Avg (all users): 4.5460
Avg (commenters): 3.2500
Avg (participants): 4.1538
Avg (non-participants): 4.7297
Views since voting: 547
Views during voting: 297
Votes: 163
Comments: 23
Favorites: 0

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AuthorThread
 12/04/2012 10:31:04 PM
Originally posted by hahn23:
Yes, I should have shown a pair of scissors on the kitchen table. That would have been true photography.


:)

I think there's a big difference between throwing a pair of scissors on the table vs working with lighting, composition, and maybe adding a few more elements into the scene. I don't follow you enough to know whether or not you like the studio shots, but IreneM's shot in this challenge is actually pretty good. To me she put some thought into her photograph.

Not trying to discount your entry, but I was hoping to give you a perspective on why you would have received a 5 or 6 for this shot. Of course, that kind of explanation was not asked for, so my apologies for doing so.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/04/2012 10:20:42 PM
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
I would have been a 5 or 6 voter if I had voted in this challenge. On first pass, I don't see the connection to the theme. To me the subjects of the photo are all the beautiful snow-covered trees. After reading your comments, I am searching for the rocks and see what I believe are the items, scattered throughout the scene. The challenge here becomes this: how do you convey familiarity to those not native to the area? It's a beautiful shot, certainly not deserving the low scores, but I think what hurts it in a voting challenge is the lack of a quick link to the theme.

Yes, I should have shown a pair of scissors on the kitchen table. That would have been true photography.
 12/04/2012 09:38:18 PM
Regardless of score, it's a beautiful image that you can be proud of!
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/04/2012 08:27:40 PM
I would have been a 5 or 6 voter if I had voted in this challenge. On first pass, I don't see the connection to the theme. To me the subjects of the photo are all the beautiful snow-covered trees. After reading your comments, I am searching for the rocks and see what I believe are the items, scattered throughout the scene. The challenge here becomes this: how do you convey familiarity to those not native to the area? It's a beautiful shot, certainly not deserving the low scores, but I think what hurts it in a voting challenge is the lack of a quick link to the theme.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/04/2012 09:32:05 AM
Subtle rarely resonates with voters. Lovely image, though. So peaceful and untouched.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/04/2012 12:15:30 AM
I can feel the weight of the snow on the branches.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 08:48:43 PM
Gives me chills. :) Great image (wrong challenge) ;-)
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 08:48:02 PM
Gave it a 7 at the time, I think one has to sit and look with the stillness of the shot to really appreciate its worth.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 05:30:46 PM
I smell the cold.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 04:23:24 PM
Lovely. That heavy snow (and more coming down, I think) - adds visual weight to the scene.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 04:00:28 PM
a magical land you have to explore - haven't spent any time in RMNP during winter...will need to do it someday
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 03:30:54 PM
WOW this is beautiful. Surprised by the low votes. It seems to have fit the challenge. Just don't understand votes. Nicely done.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 02:50:45 PM
What a snow! And very well captured.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 12:54:10 PM
I think it's a lovely photo, it just didn't fit the challenge that well.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 11:01:26 AM
Lovely scene!! The foreground framing really sets off the midground trees and background mountain slope.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 10:46:27 AM
Don't remember this (and I didn't vote the challenge), but it's a stunning image regardless.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 12/03/2012 10:38:55 AM
lots of paper too!
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 02/15/2012 07:18:30 AM
> Wow, that is a lot of DNMC votes for a pretty good image with big rocks visible.

Their loss. It's a beautiful winter landscape.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 02/15/2012 06:54:09 AM
I saw the rock. And I want a print!
I absolutely loved this
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 Comments Made During the Challenge
02/12/2012 02:17:55 PM
If there is a rock in this, it's buried under a stack of snow. I think the lack of a prominent element might hurt your score. I actually like the shot, despite the huge amount of white in the scene, it still feels balanced.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 02/12/2012 01:29:33 AM
where are the rocks?
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 02/11/2012 05:06:34 PM
Where's the rock??? Paper?? or Scissors??? :)
  Photographer found comment helpful.
 02/08/2012 07:37:51 PM
Nice photo, but this is more about the snow and trees than rocks.
  Photographer found comment helpful.


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