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Challenge: Free Study 2012-01 (Advanced Editing VII)
Camera: Nikon D300
Lens: Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX
Location: Saginaw, Michigan
Date: Jan 29, 2012
Galleries: Sports, Architecture
Date Uploaded: Jan 24, 2012

Let the floggings begin.

I'll bet this will drive the voters crazy.

I did it. I freaked the voters out with this shot. The tilt was just too much for them.

Statistics
Place: 272 out of 287
Avg (all users): 4.8792
Avg (commenters): 6.1429
Avg (participants): 4.7963
Avg (non-participants): 5.0976
Views since voting: 421
Views during voting: 246
Votes: 149
Comments: 17
Favorites: 0


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09/06/2012 10:08:46 PM
I am assuming you created the frame by rotating your shot thereby creating a bigger canvas size. High points for creativity and out of the box thinking but the frame does not add anything to this shot.

As for the shot it self, you did good to rotate the camera to get a more creative view on the subjects, however there is no other compositional elements in the shot to make it stand out. The shot is all background with no real depth. I do like all the lines of the skis but they do not serve to enhance a subject. Here the skis are the primary element of the shot when they should be the secondary element used perhaps as a background for an environmental portrait.
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09/06/2012 09:54:05 PM
I see I gave this a 4. Pretty sure it was the border that dropped it below my average otherwise it would probably have been a 5 or 6. I'm just not a fan of these types of shots. Sorry not much of a critique.
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09/06/2012 07:28:11 PM
Not that I am a border hater, but I would've liked this much better cropped just like it is an no border.. As it stood I see I gave it a 5... Funny think is when you posted this on the thread I remembered seeing it before so at least it made an impression, guess I ought to go back and bump that 5 to a 6 for sticking with me almost a year!
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09/06/2012 03:58:45 PM
I really like the idea of this too, but as most had said the borders are what hurt it. I'ld actually like to see the picture as a whole without the border.
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09/06/2012 03:09:21 PM
Commenting for the critique thread.... I see I gave this a 4 at vote time. My votes vary based on the strength of the competition and so a 4 in one challenge could be a 6 in another as I ensure I get a full spread of marks. In a free study, I my expectations are higher - it's supposed to represent the best shot of the month for the respective photographers.

I guess I'm on of Yo Spiff's dreaded border patrol. I'm it a fan of borders unless they are very subtle - I generally don't feel they add much to photos. In this particular shot I felt the border overwhelmed the image. I haven't been scientific but it feels like there is more border than actual image. Straight away your score was hit on that basis.

Then looking at the image itself, I like the lines and colours, but I think I would like to have seen the lines at an angle rather than vertical. Either mirroring the angle of the border, or at a complimentary angle.

Maybe if the shot has been rotated so there was no border but the skis went at an angle I would have found it more engaging. Or maybe shooting along the wall instead of towards it, and using a shallow depth of field to give some graduation to the focus would make it more interesting. This just didn't do it for me in a free study.

Message edited by author 2012-09-06 15:10:30.
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09/06/2012 02:32:31 PM
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

I found the patterns of the skis had potential but nothing special that grabbed me. I gave this a 7, though not because of the image itself. It was a reward for taking a risk with the border. I knew the border patrol would lowball this.

I wasn't around at this time, but that border is out of control. I probably would have given this a 3-4 for that border alone. The skis are cool, but to be honest, I don't even know they're there.
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09/06/2012 02:19:42 PM
I found the patterns of the skis had potential but nothing special that grabbed me. I gave this a 7, though not because of the image itself. It was a reward for taking a risk with the border. I knew the border patrol would lowball this.
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09/06/2012 02:10:14 PM
First off - I really like the IDEA of the shot. The repeating shapes of the various skis with the unique color patterns is a great subject. But I really can't stand the border at all (it was too much for me). I think I get the humor of it (angled without being angled), but those big black blobs in the corners really kills it for me.

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02/08/2012 09:22:51 AM
The big question is not about the framing, but where did you find so many old-school skis all in one place? That's awesome!
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
02/07/2012 01:04:36 PM
Ok,I'll grant you it's a good option when there's too much snow to ride a bike. You know the "border patrol" will have a field day with this pic, right?
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02/07/2012 02:13:21 AM
Very effective.
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02/06/2012 05:21:47 PM
Love this photo. Great choice on the framing!
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02/06/2012 03:09:24 PM
Olin Mark III - too bad one can't buy these non-carving skis anymore!
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02/02/2012 04:55:01 PM
I'd rather be skiing, I mean shooting photos.
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02/02/2012 05:13:43 AM
Hmm.. I don't think the strange crop did you any favors here. I think if you had all of the skis fill the frame and then tilt the camera you'd get a much better effect. Points for creativity, though. 6
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02/01/2012 06:06:39 PM
Creative frame. Good ski study.
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02/01/2012 12:19:39 PM
Wow there are some super 80s skis there!
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