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pizza place shoot-out
pizza place shoot-out

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Challenge: Point of View (Classic Editing)
Camera: Canon PowerShot G3
Location: Fairvew, Philippines
Date: Jan 7, 2004
Aperture: 5.6
ISO: 100
Shutter: aperture priority
Galleries: Macro, Photojournalism
Date Uploaded: Jan 7, 2004

Aftermath of a shoot-out between policemen and robbers

Place: 103 out of 286
Avg (all users): 5.4667
Avg (commenters): 6.5143
Avg (participants): 5.4954
Avg (non-participants): 5.4427
Views since voting: 1042
Votes: 240
Comments: 42
Favorites: 0

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11/22/2004 08:15:52 PM
Why are there two people just standing over the body with their backs turned? That to me makes it look staged, even if it isn't. It's still a good picture, and a great idea.

Message edited by author 2004-11-22 20:18:03.
01/22/2004 10:56:21 AM
I disagree; if you look at the score distribution, the really high scores and the really low scores are about even in number, and they cancel. The majority of voters gave this a medium score. I don't think this is a great shot technically, and that's why it got voted down. The whole "violence" factor does make one wonder what the purpose of the photo is... I personally still don't "get it"; and if there's nothing to get - if I'm just supposed to appreciate it for what it is, I can't, because it just doesn't look appealing to me technically.

Originally posted by Beagleboy:

Another instance where this should have scored much higher. You got trashed by the anti-violence, anti-reality crew. You focussed this perfectly: the victim in soft focus takes away the over-the-top gore factor that we see in police file shots. Keep up the good work.
01/21/2004 07:14:12 AM
Another instance where this should have scored much higher. You got trashed by the anti-violence, anti-reality crew. You focussed this perfectly: the victim in soft focus takes away the over-the-top gore factor that we see in police file shots. Keep up the good work.
01/21/2004 06:39:09 AM
This is real!?!?! Yikes, how did you get so close.
 Comments Made During the Challenge
01/20/2004 09:44:36 PM
well....this photo is a bit disturbing. Yet, the perspective is different and interesting....I hope you set up this photo, and it wasn't a real person you were photographing. Very creative, but hard to look at...
01/20/2004 01:46:15 PM
Wow, it was setuped? Or you shoot real life murder?
01/20/2004 10:21:29 AM
Yuck. I'm not so sure I like this point of view...
01/20/2004 09:17:10 AM
Strange.... But interesting!!
01/20/2004 08:02:26 AM
how would the family feel? It's not just about the shock value, it's also about the feelings of those involved.
01/19/2004 05:30:48 PM
holy shit. is that real? I don't mean to be naive, but that's disturbing in its realism.
01/19/2004 03:26:11 AM
I hope to God this isn't real! If so, I think it is in poor taste. Still, dealing with the challenge, it is shot (no pun intended) from an interesting angle. Too bad your DOF isn't deeper.
01/19/2004 02:01:54 AM
01/18/2004 11:48:38 PM
Is this a real scene. How aweful
01/18/2004 05:32:59 PM
The cluttered realism of this shot makes it shudder-inducingly effective.
01/18/2004 12:30:37 PM
thats a little morbid
01/17/2004 07:34:52 PM
Emotional photo. I'm not sure how well-recieved this will be on this website.
01/17/2004 04:54:44 PM
oh my god. What's the story behind this one?!
01/16/2004 11:28:03 PM
A powerful photograph. Made more intense by the out of focus immediacy of the shot. Taken quickly as if to escape the reality of the scene. Nicely done.
01/16/2004 11:06:52 PM
A little morbid.
01/16/2004 10:29:06 PM
I don't feel this site is a forum for this type of photograpghy...sorry 1
01/16/2004 12:10:07 PM
Wow. It looks very real. Whether it is or isn't...still an impactful pic.
01/15/2004 11:50:19 PM
this does not look like a set up shot even though I REALLY hope that it is. Very disturbing. Technically a good shot.
01/15/2004 06:36:45 PM
Technicaly, this is an ok photo, but I'm marking down lower because it seems a little exploitative. I'm not saying that this topic can't be photographed, and I also trust that that guy wasn't really shot, but when I look at it just on its own, I just don't get the photo. It's just not especially visually appealing or provocative....
01/15/2004 05:27:34 PM
Don't know if this is real or not, but what a great image. Very strong! Jacko. 10
01/15/2004 04:22:30 PM
i'm gonna wanna hear the story on this one. ten for grabbing it. hope if anything that dramatic happens near me i'll be confidant enough to take a picture. you should definitely win this challenge.
01/15/2004 02:08:23 PM
Okay, this is just gruesome! But was probably fun to setup.
01/15/2004 10:04:24 AM
Are you a homicide detective or just a passerby? Nice newspaper shot, something the AP might take. If this is a real scene I feel bad for the family. Maybe a little to realy for this site, but good shot none the less. I would like to see your other comments on this photo.
01/15/2004 07:35:57 AM
Good photo of a disturbing subject.
01/15/2004 02:35:04 AM
I want to konw the story behind this one, doesn't look good. Lets prey it's staged.
01/15/2004 12:51:27 AM
Is that real? If so, it's amazing that you had the presence of mind to compose the shot that way because it's a 10 from a fit-the-challenge perspective.
01/14/2004 11:04:02 PM
Is this for real? I'd be pretty upset if a friend or family member got killed and ended up in a photo contest. I hope this was staged.
01/14/2004 09:18:19 PM
If this is real I don't see how it could have logically happened. for one, the persons body seems unnatural, two, the hieght of the bullet hole "appears" to be lower than eye level, which I would assume to be the area of impact due to the blood at the head. But thirdly, I could be wrong, but the angle of the bullet upon impact of the glass appears to be at a right angle, but if that bullet were to hit the person in the picture it would have had to enter at an angle in closer approximation to the angle that the body is lying. I thus conclude it is staged, but nevertheless clever take on the challenge. (7)
01/14/2004 08:45:04 PM
the bit of blue above the victim distracts me a bit. Would like to see something more interesting through the hole.
01/14/2004 05:37:55 PM
01/14/2004 03:48:37 PM
holy cow- I hope that's not real, but it sure looks like it is. Excellent fit to the challenge, 10 from me.
01/14/2004 03:41:30 PM
Yikes! Very intense. Was this staged? It has a very real quality to it
01/14/2004 12:30:44 PM
wow... looks real, hope it wasn't
01/14/2004 11:19:44 AM
Interesting perspective. I am assuming this is a real bullet hole but was it a real crime scene?
01/14/2004 10:40:48 AM
Shocking impact. You did a good job not only getting this close but with the composition.
01/14/2004 10:02:47 AM
Interesting idea and point of view. I doubt the puritans on this site will think highly of it.
01/14/2004 09:35:55 AM
This dosent look good. Is it real??? Good shot !?
01/14/2004 06:05:28 AM
Ah! Freakin' me out here. Please tell me this was all staged! Great photo! I wanna know man 'cause it's so good but if it's real that makes me sad! :P

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