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Challenge: Selective Desaturation II (Advanced Editing V)
Collection: Portfolio
Camera: Nikon D70s
Lens: Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED
Location: My Back Deck
Date: May 20, 2007
Aperture: F/3.5
ISO: 200
Shutter: 1/80
Date Uploaded: May 20, 2007

Just desatted as needed, slight cropping, and sized for web

Statistics
Place: 459 out of 556
Avg (all users): 4.8982
Avg (commenters): 6.0000
Avg (participants): 4.8232
Avg (non-participants): 5.2000
Views since voting: 829
Views during voting: 293
Votes: 226
Comments: 11
Favorites: 0


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06/30/2007 11:28:24 PM
... you know, we'll probably forever argue over who's hibiscus shot is better! LOL.
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06/02/2007 12:12:18 AM
Hi Jeb. I like this. I think JuliBoc and others have explained why it's not quite perfect, but 4.9 is just silly. ignore the score and enjoy the shot. :)
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05/30/2007 11:24:50 AM
Hey, Jeb -- how's it going?
This got a six from me. I liked the fact that there is some subtle colors remaining in the desaturated areas. Technically I think your PP work was good, though there's a hint of bg color seeping in at the edges of the flowers. As others mentioned, the boxy gray shape is distracting, although your depth of field helps. I suspect the main reason people had trouble with this is that there are just too many flowers in the challenge, and unless a flower photo is outstanding, it is going to get neglected and abused.

My second and third challenge entries are getting trashed, deservedly. However, I think my Desat entry was better than many that rated higher, including several in the top 20-30. Ah, well. :-)

Message edited by author 2007-05-30 11:26:43.
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05/28/2007 08:30:08 PM
I can't imagine why it didn't do better than it did but, for me sel. desat is used on a B&W to add punch to it, in other words find a good subject for B&W and then allow some aspect of it to remain in color to really make the whole image stand out. Just my thoughts and I may be way off base...
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05/28/2007 10:50:40 AM
Jeb, I think there are several things that hurt your score.

1. While the bloom is lovely, the color is lovely, and you did a very good job on the selective desat, the photo doesn't seem to be improved by the process. In other words, I doubt you would have used this technique on this photo if it wasn't the challenge topic.

2. Even thought you desaturated the background, there are elements in the background that still conflict with the blossom -- e.g. the two light gray items behind the blossom.

3. I think there is too much b&w in the bottom of the image. It might be better if the bottom was cropped to just below the bud making the aspect ratio almost square. The other alternative would be to leave the size as it is, and color the bud which might balance the composition better.

Hope this helps. Of course, it is just my very amateur opinion.
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05/28/2007 10:41:33 AM
This was another one of my "6 and a half"s. I actually had it at 7 for a while because I like how you can still see some green in the stem and leaves. The leaves are very dark but still retain a fine level of detail. But I just ended up scoring this challenge low overall. 6 was a good score from me for this challenge. I am honestly baffled at how you got scored as low as you did.
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05/28/2007 10:01:38 AM
some people just don't get art.
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05/28/2007 09:58:36 AM
Hi Jeb, I gave you a good score on this, so I'm afraid I can't explain what happened in the challenge. One thing that maybe hurt you is the bit of wall (maybe it is a square pot) in the background. I also think that flowers scored poorly in general, well-taken or not, because there were so many of them. The main thing is, though: this was an incredibly low-scoring challenge overall. I've been looking through the TS photos and can't believe some that scored under 5, yours included. I think the scores got skewed because of the new DPL. Normally I am quite sure this would have been mid-high fives at the least. Luckily I think the scoring will even itself back out again on future challenges. Please don't think that score reflects the quality of this photograph. It is quite lovely.
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05/28/2007 02:06:17 AM
Gorgeous bloom and well presented. I'd explain the score, but I haven't a clue!
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
05/24/2007 02:48:15 PM
I like the green tint that is in the leaves.
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05/22/2007 10:24:19 AM
I like how you didn't take all the green out. This is one of the best flower shots in the challenge.
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