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Challenge: Landscape (Classic Editing)
Camera: Canon PowerShot G1
Location: Columbia River near Portland Oregon
Date: Jan 12, 2003
Aperture: 1/650
ISO: 50
Shutter: 2.0
Date Uploaded: Jan 12, 2003

Crown Point overlooking the Columbia River, just outside of Portland OR.

Place: 28 out of 219
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01/27/2003 10:48:47 AM
Thanks for the CC review Manic. Very much appreciate the time you took to do this throrough review! Yes, I agree, diferent lighting would have really helped this shot. Unfortunately I dont have the chance to get out too often, and I hit this in the late afternoon. Definitely agree that having some lighting on the forground cliff would have helped a lot. As for the post-processing. Yes, I played with the levels and saturation extensively before deciding upon the final product. It was a very hazy day that afternoon, and what you see here is about as good as I could get it withough creating some very unrealistic blueing effects throughout the entire photo. Wish I had a UV filter. Thanks again, and keep tose great reviews coming!
01/26/2003 11:43:18 AM
Critique Club comment :o)


The most striking thing about this photo is the contrast between the area in shadow and the rest of the landscape. This makes the foreground on the right really pop out, thus drawing attention to the building on top of this outcrop - great choice of focal point, by the way.

The lines of the shot lead the eye across the frame nicely, but I'd be interested to see if it was possible to take this shot from higher up (so that more of the river is in view), or slightly lower down (so that the foreground outcrop covers the background river & hills).


The background is an integral part of this landscape shot, so much is covered above. However, I can add that the sky (and the distant hills) are getting a bit grainy, even with as low an ISO as 50, so perhaps a slightly longer exposure with a narrower aperture would help avoid that, but that really depends on your camera as much as anything.

Camera Work:

Both the focus and the DoF are good on this shot. As for the lighting, as many other people suggested in their comments, it may have been worth going up there at a different time of day (if possible), to get the light coming at a different angle.

FYI, I think you've got your Aperture and Shutter values mixed up - the aperture should probably be F2.0, and thus the Shutter time should be 1/650th sec :o)

Post Processing:

Since you've not provided any details, I can only guess as to what post processing you've done, if any. The mane thing about this shot is obviously the balance between the very dark shadows and the very light, even hazy, sunlit areas - perhaps some (more) levels adjustments would help cool the lit areas, without losing the details in the shadows... but this might not be possible, of course, in which case this is probably the best compromise.

My Opinion:

I personally think that this shot absolutely meets the "landscape" challenge, and is an impressive vista, held together nicely by the focal point of the building. Definitely an above-average shot, just short of being great.

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 Comments Made During the Challenge
01/19/2003 04:32:06 PM
This is a nice image the only thing that I'm sure you've already heard is to maybe wait until your foreground would be lit. I know this is hard but it is a huge payoff. Nice photo.
01/19/2003 01:11:36 PM
Very pretty view, and nicely captured too.
01/19/2003 05:39:32 AM
the sheer size is amazing, and composition ... 10
01/19/2003 03:17:56 AM
01/18/2003 09:22:45 AM
Wow! What a viewpoint it is!!! Just wonderful! Unfortunately there isn't enough detail in the shaded part and the highlighted part could use a filter to clarify a bit. I still like it, but would score higher with those details fixed. It is a very beautiful scene.
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01/17/2003 11:56:31 PM
Wow, what an awesome view! I really like the building on the point. The lighting works great too. I wish it wasn't quite so hazy but don't think you have much control over that.
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01/17/2003 01:37:20 AM
Wow. That certainly is a good viewpoint. If I had to pick one flaw it would be that the area on the right of frame is in shadow, maybe you have tried this again at a different time of day. Congratulations on a very striking photograph.
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01/16/2003 02:04:40 PM
oh my, this is the best one i've seen so far. everything is present in this picture, except possible, a time of day where the light is more dramatic.
01/16/2003 12:18:33 AM
A wonderful picture. Too bad it was so hazy. Maybe could have stood to have a little increase in the saturation, to punch up the colours a little. 9
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01/15/2003 08:34:40 PM
Pity you couldn't get there at a time of day when there was sun on the back of the mountain on the right too. Easier said than done though!
01/15/2003 07:51:21 PM
Very nice! Reminds me of the Columbia River Gorge area. The building on top of the near outcropping looks very cool. Did you use a haze filter? If not, it might have helped, but I haven't had great luck in that area. Easy 9! Swash
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01/15/2003 05:50:45 PM
Nice photo.
The river (?) looks interesting with those whites in it, nice background with hills in a haze. The composition is pretty strong with the use of the building at the right. It draws the eye away from the road beneath and holds the view on the middle and upper part of the image. It needs the road part of the river valley beneath, because it creates the sense of standing on an edge.
Good focus, sharpness and esposure.
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01/15/2003 01:30:50 PM
I bet this is extra impressive in summer and fall. It's a very lovely view. I'm glad that the house isn't in the fog too. I think it's good how the cliff is in shadow, it kind of creates a balance with the white fog. The fog mutes the colors, but I like it that way. Lovely angle and framing/cropping. I think I have seen photos of this before, but there seemed to be extra brush or something in the forgroud. Anyway, nice shot. Good luck in the challenge.
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01/15/2003 12:35:20 PM
Looks like a post card shot. I wish the building was larger.
Improvements: Maybe a haze or UV filter whould help eliminate the blue haze making the background more visible.
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01/15/2003 10:21:16 AM
Amazing. Can you imagine living there. Your own little mountain. What a view.
01/15/2003 08:42:25 AM
Very well done. Really meets the challenge. Focus and lighting are good. Subject matter is outstanding. 8 waltoml.
01/15/2003 02:07:00 AM
Very nice scenic view, must have been a pretty hazy day! I struggle on this shot for a few reasons, the shadow on the ground which could be cropped with no lasting impact to the effect and that my attention is drawn between the landscape and the building on the outcropping. Either would be fine in my opinion, but both is a little much to my eyes. Playing around with the crop on either side would accomplish this. I hope you understand what I am getting at, the shot is still really good.7.
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01/14/2003 10:50:17 PM
Stunning. Excellent shot. My favourite of the challenge. The colours are breathtaking. Everthing is in focus, and I love the composition. jgillard10
01/14/2003 05:57:50 AM
oh wow. 9.
01/13/2003 11:33:13 PM
Very nice. I wish we could see more detail. Good luck!
01/13/2003 11:15:16 PM
Nice photo. It looks like it was a little hazy when you took the photo, and the shadows on the ground are a shame - although with the time constraints of the challenge these issues can be understood. You composition is nice, the border is nice and simple, and the focus is quite good. Well done.
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01/13/2003 10:02:59 PM
Very nice view. Seems rather hazy - maybe different lighting and/or more saturation could help. 8
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01/13/2003 08:37:21 PM
Columbia River...Maryville? Very cool shot. Good job.......wow o'wow. You did this well. Nice and then some .....good DOF/color, focus. Bravo!!!!!!!
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01/13/2003 06:21:42 PM
Pretty cool. The mountian on the right really give a sense of depth.
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01/13/2003 05:52:55 PM
Wow!! Now that's a view!!!
01/13/2003 03:33:50 AM
is this the columbia gorge?
01/13/2003 03:07:05 AM
Great shot. The place looks familiar, where is it?
01/13/2003 02:58:12 AM
OH WOW, very beautiful landscape. I love cliff photos. Excellent composition and colour. GL
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01/13/2003 12:24:48 AM
that hill is too dark
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