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...of the Sea
...of the Sea
marnet


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Challenge: Over the Top (Advanced Editing VII)
Collection: Workshop
Camera: Canon EOS-5D Mark II
Lens: Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS
Date: Dec 6, 2012
Date Uploaded: Dec 7, 2012

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Statistics
Place: 29 out of 55
Avg (all users): 5.5474
Avg (commenters): 6.6667
Avg (participants): 5.5000
Avg (non-participants): 5.5672
Views since voting: 528
Views during voting: 185
Votes: 95
Comments: 12
Favorites: 0


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03/14/2013 11:53:27 PM
I like the idea, and the image has some very graphic apeal and the only image I actualy viewed in large format from this challenge when it was in voting (didn't vote). However the framing isn't working so well for me, I havean urge to crop it as a panaramic. something about the uprights on the peir seams out of true, so close to vertical the slight lean appears to be accidental rather than by design. I am not that excited by a pier or ocean as a general rule, to me they feel cliche. I like that youve tried to break from cliche but it doesn't feel polished.
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12/21/2012 11:34:45 AM
I'm no pro, but here goes - When I first viewed this image my immediate impression was that it was a frozen lake (I'm from a cold climate so I suppose it's a natural reaction lol). Overall, I like your image, but there are a couple of things that I find a bit distracting - the foggy looking bit on the bottom edge of the pier, and the bird. This image has a feel of solitude to me, so maybe that's why I feel like it would be better without that bird (I am reminded of noise & movement). I really liked the composition, as others have said, nice use of negative space. IMHO.
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12/21/2012 12:54:39 AM
Originally posted by crayon:

i'm going to comment this from a POV of a regular person since i'm not good with photography.
what i see when i'm holding this photo? i see a bunch of sticks seemingly stuck on a frozen surface, which looks a bit like snow? or a frozen lake? and then i realize, "oh wait, those arent sticks, they look like a jetty" and then i would realize, why do the sea/water look so weird? they dont look like water at all. frozen maybe? why are there so many blank areas in this photo? the main item is the jetty? but there isnt much to see about the jetty, it just doesnt wow me.

the end.

I like your comment, thanks :)
12/20/2012 10:39:11 PM
Hey I will be honest with you..

It sucks.

The rule of thirds is no where, you have something sticking out of the right middle hand side of the frame to high up to make it visually pleasing, you would have been better to have had it centered even, so that the top of the frame, gave it more depth.

There is no depth in the pier, you have so much haloing on the pier posts it looks weird.

That could possibly be a pigeon at the end of the pier but it is so out of focus and such a blob that it is almost a distraction and it's arse is blended into a pier stick so it looks like it is part of it very distracting.

You have over smoothed the water under the pier where it looks like you have actually gone in on Photoshop and smoothed it out and or denoised it to distraction.

The pier sticks are certainly in focus but the eye is drawn to the white straight lines that lead to nothing but a pigeons arse, there is no texture in anything in this picture. You have some splendid water worn pier poles and they just look like sticks with no history.

As for the ocean that has no basics drama, any life, any character, a story or history , even a Ripple or a thought that life could be within it or even looks like anything other than a flat boring beige attempt at art work, but wait, there is that tiny flutter of fluff at the non descriptor pier pilings. But wait there is a nice bright white splodge in those pilings that pull the eye to it. Wait, the two bits at the end pull the eye as well. Very white.

When doing a black and white study, you have to realize that there are actually black and whites and a whole bunch of greys that make a black and white photo work. In this work of 'art' you have 3 colours.

Black and white studies are just as colourful as colour photos and it honestly takes a good , an excellent, a master, to bring colour of a black and white , so that there is just not 3 colours.

But what the heck, knowing you, you are going to take this as me being all bad and mean to you, when in fact, as I usually am with you, telling you some honesty to get further in this world.

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12/20/2012 10:17:54 PM
i'm going to comment this from a POV of a regular person since i'm not good with photography.
what i see when i'm holding this photo? i see a bunch of sticks seemingly stuck on a frozen surface, which looks a bit like snow? or a frozen lake? and then i realize, "oh wait, those arent sticks, they look like a jetty" and then i would realize, why do the sea/water look so weird? they dont look like water at all. frozen maybe? why are there so many blank areas in this photo? the main item is the jetty? but there isnt much to see about the jetty, it just doesnt wow me.

the end.
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12/20/2012 08:26:45 PM
It's a nice image to be sure, but somehow it doesn't quite work for me. I think if having all that negative space, I would rather it come after the subject with the pier more in the right foreground. I would also prefer just a tiny bit more texture on the water. A vignette might have been nice here too.
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12/20/2012 07:54:48 PM
First, I definitely like it as is. It's the kind of ocean imagery that I generally like. Since you asked, I think it is too tightly framed given the hint of negative space you have on the left. It's somewhere in between...imagine it squared off with just the bird and pier (you end up with some nice pseudo-triangles of interesting tones and subjects), or a wider/taller minimalist composition with the pier arising from the bottom right rather than the middle of the frame. Great work with the bright whites, it gives that bird something to look forward to!

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12/17/2012 02:42:44 AM
I gave it a 5 - there seems to be too much of a visual contrast between the smooth, blurred water and the sharp, detailed pier for my liking. It's like the pier was masked off and then the water was heavily Gaussian blurred - even though I am sure that's not the case. Just my two cents.
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12/17/2012 12:37:25 AM
Personaly I think you should quit takeing photo's .. go home and watch TV.... Give some of us a chance at a blue, you Blue hog!! LOL

Really like the feel on this, so peaceful, serene, the fog adds to the ahhh feel to me, and the one Lonley gull looking out to sea just totaly knocks it out of the park.

Where do you come up with all these great scenes????

OOO I see that was in the challenge.. I tried to vote that but my internet was running too slow to open pix.. and it only got a 5.5474... Ahhh personaly, JMHO you got raped!

Message edited by author 2012-12-17 00:39:26.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
12/16/2012 04:32:23 AM
I see a great entry for that Negative Space challenge
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12/11/2012 05:47:17 PM
Beautiful long exposure.
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12/10/2012 12:41:51 PM
I like this a lot...love this type of photography actually. The only very tiny nit pick I have is that the pier seems a little bit crooked..BUT I see you alighned the first post to the edge...probably would have done the same! :-p
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