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Sebi


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Challenge: Free Study 2012-04 (Advanced Editing VII)
Camera: Canon EOS-5D
Lens: Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III
Location: International Makeup Tradeshow New York
Date: Apr 15, 2012
Aperture: 4.0
ISO: 1600
Shutter: 1/200
Date Uploaded: Apr 29, 2012

I shot this at the New York International make up trade show.

The makeup is done by the fantastic makeup artist Shino Kakuta.

Her work won first place at IMATS, which is a big deal!

I found this cool hallway in the warehouse where the tradeshow was being held and spoke with security about doing a photoshoot there.

I told Shino about DPC and if it was cool that I entered this in the free study challenge and she said yes.

Statistics
Place: 144 out of 275
Avg (all users): 5.7165
Avg (commenters): 7.7500
Avg (participants): 5.7021
Avg (non-participants): 5.7576
Views since voting: 559
Views during voting: 218
Votes: 127
Comments: 14
Favorites: 0


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05/14/2012 04:08:59 PM
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks again!

@knikki - I completely agree with the idea of narrative and story being important in a photo, I thought the unusual figure and relatively unusual setting was enough to do it and I settled, next opportunity i'll try to go the extra step.

@Mark-A Ahhh, I see what you mean now, I should have blended the pixels there or something, or left it out of the sharpen filter. Thanks again, and yes I agree a different challenge may have yielded different results, it's all about the timing I guess, I just wanted to submit it in something. Too bad there was no 'alien in a suit' challenge, haha.
05/14/2012 02:52:01 PM
First of all, I preface my comments with the fact that I'm still a newb. Having said that, I thought it was gorgeous make up and a cool photo - it just didn't "speak to me" like so many of the other photos in the challenge. When voting, it's such a subjective thing - and I recognize that your photo is excellent, and the subject is interesting - it wasn't a pose in which I was wondering what he was doing, or a setting in which I immediately wanted to know more. I just thought it was cool. End of story. Understand that my voting is about quality - but for ME, it's also about art and being intrigued and often times it's just finding what many call that "it" factor, which is hard to describe.

A different pose? A different background? Something to give it story - to give it mystery? I wish I could articulate more - but these are just the things that would have made ME score it higher, and subsequently others might have voted lower. So please take it with a grain of salt and know in another challenge, I may have loved it so much more just based on the change in context.
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05/12/2012 03:51:48 AM
Hmm all down the right side of his body is a jaggy and then a px halo well on my monitors. If you still can't see it Sebi PM me and I will try and send you a copy with it emphasized even more.

For me the composition is perfect, I don't feel rule of thirds here would have been as strong and I feel sometimes people stick to that far to rigidly and are quick to throw it around like it's the be all and end all in a photo, rules are meant to be broken and for me this is the perfect example of why, trouble is people that think it's a rule that should be adhered to aren't always forgiving in their voting (again this is only my opinion).

I love the lighting and the setting too I think both add to the feeling of the shot, I could honestly see this on the cover of a movie or a poster for one. I have no idea why it didn't score much higher and personally feel it's underrated. You just didn't hit a chord with the voters - however in the "right" challenge it may well have scored much better even here ;)

Message edited by author 2012-05-12 04:27:44.
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05/11/2012 01:55:37 AM
One more thing I want to add is that his posture is perfect. It's an almost nonchalant "I'm gonna kill you and I don't really care" attitude that is projected. As a guy who has watched literally thousands of horror movies, you nailed that aspect of it.
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05/11/2012 01:35:02 AM
Awesome advice and noted (literally on a sticky note) Thank you!

I had a couple of facial closeups that I decided against simply because I thought the hallway was weird and cool and wanted to showcase a bit. ISO was stupid high haha.
05/11/2012 01:21:52 AM
I think it's the composition. Forget the hands. Focus on the face and crop a little tighter...

Also the eye goes to the light and he's the darkest thing in the photo... get rid of some of the background light with either a faster shutter or reduce ISO and bounce the flash.

In PP, you can add a levels layer set to multiply mode and it will dark. Using the layer mask you can restore the lightness to the main character and use gradient fill to create diminishing light.
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05/11/2012 01:15:20 AM
I like it. As a horror fan this is cool. I wonder if a composition following the "rule of thirds" would have been a little more dramatic and scored a little higher? That would be my only suggestion.
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05/11/2012 01:04:38 AM
Thanks a lot for the comments!!

I really expected a lot more for this photo. Maybe the thumbnail was too boring or something. I wish people would tell me why.

@Mark, I'm looking for the Halo but maybe it's my monitor, i'm tilting it up and down but I just can't see it. Hmmmm.
05/08/2012 11:48:38 AM
I thought this would place higher. Love the setting.
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05/08/2012 03:13:47 AM
Strange I really expected this to score way higher than this, unfortunately so often "different" doesn't do as well here at DPC as it deserves to, I'd have given this at least a 9 for originality and creativity alone and then there's the great lighting on top of that! One nitpick is the halo around the person I think you could have been hit by the voters because of this as it is quite obvious and could have been so easily resolved.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
05/07/2012 09:05:19 PM
Looks like a nice guy.
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05/07/2012 10:49:12 AM
Goodness me, that's effective!

The backdrop and stark lighting works really well here.
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05/05/2012 03:13:25 PM
Thanks for the nightmares ...LOL, this is awesome make up ... your lighting is great and love the how you angled it so He looks so tall .. My husband said he must be a lawyer ? LOLOLOL
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05/04/2012 03:50:47 PM
Grusomely awesome!
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