DPCers Stock Site - DPChallenge Forums

03/08/2007 10:34:55 AM · #1

Have any of you ever considered joining to form a really GOOD macro stock site that could be exclusive for DPC members??

We could call it something else... would need a snappy name though. Only recruit here... we have plenty of members from all over (more than enough to keep it well stocked with images) so buyers would not be left wanting.

ETA: Not prints! LOL That would be left on DPC of course! :)

Message edited by author 2007-03-08 10:39:44.

03/08/2007 10:36:53 AM · #2

Im for it.

crayon

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FH1

03/08/2007 10:51:27 AM · #3

cant we just tweak DPCPrints a bit?

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

03/08/2007 11:02:40 AM · #4

Originally posted by crayon:

cant we just tweak DPCPrints a bit?

yup

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

03/08/2007 11:04:21 AM · #5

why not?

03/08/2007 11:05:15 AM · #6

Well, yes, we could... but my school of thought is to have it run by the DPCers themselves and therefore they get the most profit. Not having to pay 20% off the top of the sell price.

MichaelC

DJI Mini 3 Pro

03/08/2007 11:13:38 AM · #7

I'm actually looking in to setting up a stock site right now. Not that I expect to make money from stock sales ('tho that would be cool), it is more for making my travel photography tax deductable.

I'm expecting to spend around $2,0000 setting it up.

03/08/2007 11:16:25 AM · #8

Originally posted by MichaelC:

HOLY MOLY!! That's a LOT!! Are you having to hire a designer?? If so, you might check elance.com and get the lowest bid :)

I have advantage, I am married to a computer ~~geek~~ guru :)

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

03/08/2007 11:18:21 AM · #9

Originally posted by MichaelC:

2,000 or 20,000? And why.

I mean unless your paying a team of guys todo it in a week.

Heh I dont even spend 250 a year on a shared sever that has 300GB of space and 3 Terabytes of transfer per month. Dedicated sever run aorund 99 to 299 a month. Im sure u can find some college kid todo it for 15 an hour if you cant do it yourself.

But hell i could do one myself lets say if i had ENOUGH TIME, to screw with it. Im doing 7 sites right now and thats the reason my site has been down for 3 years.

Message edited by author 2007-03-08 11:18:39.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

03/08/2007 11:19:05 AM · #10

Originally posted by MichaelC:

2,000 or 20,000?

comma says one, zeros say the other . . .

PhantomEWO

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

03/08/2007 11:28:13 AM · #11

For those who have never been sucessful in business .... it takes money to make money. My guess is that with only $2,000 to invest you will have to be very lucky to earn it back. We all have a dream of hitting the lottery, 99.999999% never do. Best of luck.
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AND as far as not wanting to pay a stock site 20% to market and sell our photos, heck I would do that any day of the week if they invested in the correct marketing program.
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There are a lot of great photogs here at DPC, it is a shame that there is not an avenue to stock sell them. To set that up it would be a bigger project than running DPC as it is now.

MichaelC

DJI Mini 3 Pro

03/08/2007 11:29:07 AM · #12

oops, sorry guys...that's 2K which I think is quite reasonable. Remember this is not a photography site, it is a stock site. ie it has the ability to have buyers, sellers, track uploads, downloads, memberships, etc.

MichaelC

DJI Mini 3 Pro

03/08/2007 11:34:05 AM · #13

besides, setting up the site is the easy part. There are many other things to consider.
* setting sales prices
* what commission to pay towards maintaining site
* how to market the site ie get traffic thru the door
* etc

03/08/2007 11:56:01 AM · #14

Originally posted by MichaelC:

Buyer Accounts, PHP MySQL = Free + Programming time
Seller Accounts, PHP MySQL = Free + Programming time
Tracking Uploads, PHP MySQL = Free + Programming time
Tracking Downloads, PHP MySQL = Free + Programming time
Serperting Basic from Member Accounts, PHP MySQL = Free + Merchant Fees

Handling Online Direct Debit, Merchant Account Fee's

Server = 200 - 1000 a year

Programming costs = Depends.

Mainly you need someone who can program Perl or PHP and is familair with relation databases I prefer MySQL. A windows server youll probly be using a dedicated server with SQL Server 2005 and programming the pages for ASP.

Outside of that you have your Merchant Account, then up keep on security and databases.

NOW MARKETING... is the expensive part the site could be done for free and put on an inexpensive but capable server but Marketing is where the cost comes in.

Message edited by author 2007-03-08 11:56:58.

03/08/2007 12:46:05 PM · #15

Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

For those who have never been sucessful in business .... it takes money to make money. My guess is that with only $2,000 to invest you will have to be very lucky to earn it back. We all have a dream of hitting the lottery, 99.999999% never do. Best of luck.
.
AND as far as not wanting to pay a stock site 20% to market and sell our photos, heck I would do that any day of the week if they invested in the correct marketing program.

I realize this but if you could sell and pay less than 20% (like maybe 2%? just enough to keep the site going) would you do it??
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There are a lot of great photogs here at DPC, it is a shame that there is not an avenue to stock sell them. To set that up it would be a bigger project than running DPC as it is now.

I realize this as well and I KNOW I can't do it myself... that is why it could be managed by involved DPCers and why I was asking for help :)

I just think the really great photogs here need some place that will give them consistent buyers (like you said) and get a bonus for being a member of DPC :)

03/08/2007 08:42:32 PM · #16

So, would anyone be interested in helping to govern something like this?? If I build it, will you come?? :) LOL

chimericvisions

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 24-70 2.8L II

03/08/2007 09:16:36 PM · #17

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Originally posted by MichaelC:
oops, sorry guys...that's 2K which I think is quite reasonable. Remember this is not a photography site, it is a stock site. ie it has the ability to have buyers, sellers, track uploads, downloads, memberships, etc.

Buyer Accounts, PHP MySQL = Free + Programming time
Seller Accounts, PHP MySQL = Free + Programming time
Tracking Uploads, PHP MySQL = Free + Programming time
Tracking Downloads, PHP MySQL = Free + Programming time
Serperting Basic from Member Accounts, PHP MySQL = Free + Merchant Fees

Handling Online Direct Debit, Merchant Account Fee's

Server = 200 - 1000 a year

Programming costs = Depends.

Mainly you need someone who can program Perl or PHP and is familair with relation databases I prefer MySQL. A windows server youll probly be using a dedicated server with SQL Server 2005 and programming the pages for ASP.

Outside of that you have your Merchant Account, then up keep on security and databases.

NOW MARKETING... is the expensive part the site could be done for free and put on an inexpensive but capable server but Marketing is where the cost comes in.

...sounds like my day job.

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

03/08/2007 09:28:54 PM · #18

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Not if everyone markets together :) It would be a lot less work for 500 people to market one site than it would be for 5 :) This is where the "teamwork" comes in and I think that if everyone gave a little bit of effort towards everything that the site would need, everyone would benefit.

captured

Canon EOS-10D

03/13/2007 09:20:23 PM · #19

I think it sounds like a great idea.

Do you foresee this being like Alamy accepting anyone or only those not currently selling on Microstock sites?

samchad

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

03/13/2007 09:32:32 PM · #20

Just thinking you could almost do it as a combination of stock and on-demand. So like iStock does, clients could use one from the library or make a request (aka Challenge).

03/13/2007 09:49:52 PM · #21

Originally posted by samchad:

Just thinking you could almost do it as a combination of stock and on-demand. So like iStock does, clients could use one from the library or make a request (aka Challenge).

I actually thought of that just last night :)

It could work.