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03/17/2003 11:13:57 AM · #1 |
Why oh why am i stuch at the five level? My only goal in life right now it to get a 6 average. *sigh*
I'm to depressed to say more:(
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03/17/2003 11:29:28 AM · #2 |
| A 6 average overall or a 6 average on one photo? An overall average of 6 or above is a pretty impressive feat not accomplished by many photographers here. However, keep submitting and I'm sure you'll break the 6 mark on a shot. I know what you mean though.. it sure seems hard to get past 5s, which is where I usually am. Good luck. |
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03/17/2003 11:29:59 AM · #3 |
| *Hugs*. I'm pretty much in the same boat :). Dreaming of being exceptional when I'm only mediocre. *Sigh*. |
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03/17/2003 11:34:54 AM · #4 |
Oh well, keep trying,mine started with 5 some and today is only 4,but I'm happy!
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03/17/2003 11:38:36 AM · #5 |
| Of course it's also notable that mass appeal is not a prerequisite for exceptional work. In my opinion you, lisae, are often in THAT boat. |
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03/17/2003 11:39:05 AM · #6 |
I'll join everyone in the dumps. I spent so much time trying to get the right shot, and then double the time trying to get it delivered to DPchallenge (new with the computer), and I am at 5.5.
But that is the wonderful thing about this site, it challenges you to get better with each attempt. |
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03/17/2003 11:44:38 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by clues56:
I'll join everyone in the dumps. I spent so much time trying to get the right shot, and then double the time trying to get it delivered to DPchallenge (new with the computer), and I am at 5.5.
But that is the wonderful thing about this site, it challenges you to get better with each attempt. |
I agree, my first pictures are kind of naive to me,slowly getting better!
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03/17/2003 12:35:38 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by wingy:
Of course it's also notable that mass appeal is not a prerequisite for exceptional work. In my opinion you, lisae, are often in THAT boat. |
Thanks! |
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03/17/2003 12:57:28 PM · #9 |
It's certainly a challenge. I'm a newbie and haven't endured for more than
a few weeks.
The top ranking images seem to be both technically outstanding as well as
artistically interesting. There are also some things that DPC folks seem
to really like:
- sharp focus (even if soft focus or blur is supposed to be
there),
- fine grain (even if heavy grain is appropriate),
- lighter images do better than darker images (even if the images are
appropriately dark)
- studio shots seem to do better than candids (unless the candid is out
of this world marvelous)
There are some things that all good photographs should have, in my
newbie opinion:
- interesting light
- a sense of purpose (it doesn't have to be didactic, but I want to be
somehow guided by the image to know why the image exists)
- good composition (whatever that means: it often means the rule of thirds
or could mean a centered subject if that is appropriate)
I use the word "appropriate" a lot, and I suppose this means that when
I see an image, I want the image (and perhaps the title) to set up the
rules for itself, and then follow those rules.
...And if I follow my own guidelines, maybe someday MY images will get
high scores!
David
Message edited by author 2003-03-17 12:58:55.
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03/17/2003 01:50:52 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by dsidwell:
There are also some things that DPC folks seem to really like |
I would argue that all a shot needs is impact. A really strong image will overcome all of the factors you list. However, the shots with less impact then start to get marked more on technical issues, which is where your points become truth.
Geo, don't get depressed, I'm sure your time will come. Keep plugging away and enjoy the challenges for what they are - something to help you to enjoy photography. |
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03/17/2003 01:55:04 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Geocide:
Why oh why am i stuch at the five level? My only goal in life right now it to get a 6 average. *sigh*
I'm to depressed to say more:( |
me too
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03/17/2003 02:49:17 PM · #12 |
I just jumped to the bottom of this post so maybe it was mentioned but look at the 1st place score of last challenge then take 10 minus that and add the difference to your score..i.e.
10- 7.4 = 2.6 so 5.4 + 2.6= 8 voila!! |
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03/17/2003 03:53:29 PM · #13 |
I'm with you. I don't think I did well unless I at least get a 5.
My last one was a 4.922
I think I just got lucky on the ones I scored above a 5.
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03/17/2003 06:14:44 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Geocide:
Why oh why am i stuch at the five level? My only goal in life right now it to get a 6 average. *sigh*
I'm to depressed to say more:( |
I don't think you shoud give up after only five submissions. Looking quickly at your shots they all have potential but often have just one thing wrong. You church shot was stunning but the "leading lines" weren't obvious to a lot of people. You bridge entry has great composition but the background is washed out and the focus seems a bit soft.
Given that you have produced some photo's which are technically very good, and some photos which have great artistic elements it's surely only a matter of time before you combine the two into a single wonderful shot. I'd say you're much more likely to score high than I am.
My entry for bridge scored higher than I thought it would. Technically it probably wasn't the best - heavy rain and a handheld camera made the background very soft, but people really liked the composition - I was lucky to remember the bridge and drove there specifically to take the one photo. |
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03/17/2003 10:33:21 PM · #15 |
HAHAHA! I'm not going to click on "My Home" again till next Monday!!! I swear that it's the clicking that's causing that number to go Down...Down...down! LOL I'm now at 4.6 but I was as high as 5.8! LOL
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03/17/2003 10:36:33 PM · #16 |
Mine was at high 6's after first 20 votes now is 5 something :-(.by Monday might go down to toilette!
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03/17/2003 11:19:08 PM · #17 |
All of this scoring talk is so interesting. I too am concerned about my numbers to the point that I have given it considerable thought. As many of us have pointed - the first 20-25 scores seem to be higher then they generally go down. Is it possible that the lower scores may be cast with respect to the voter's own score? For example, if one sees that there submission is currently at 3.* or 4.* are they likely to considers this as the average mark and/or compare their work to others. Just something to think about. Have to reexamine the rules for myself - regarding the use of the scoring scale.....
This week I am playing with scoring a 5. |
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03/17/2003 11:51:47 PM · #18 |
In retrospect, I feel I was unclear in my last posting (above). I haven't done any "studies" to see how DPC folks vote, this is just a general impression, and from the perspective of a relative newbie as well. I doubt you take my words as "scripture," but I wanted to be sure you understood that this is just my perspective and opinion.
Ultimately, I feel that when an image abides by the rules it sets, it will probably be a good image. If it doesn't know its own rules or sets rules and doesn't abide by them, it probably won't be as successful. Anyway, good luck and mostly: have fun.
There are, by the way, some worthwhile guidelines to voting and scoring in the "Learn" section of the website in the form of a tutorial. Perhaps there should be more instruction on how to "judge' art?
David
[quote=dsidwell]It's certainly a challenge. I'm a newbie and haven't endured for more than
a few weeks......
Message edited by author 2003-03-17 23:54:31.
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03/18/2003 12:58:02 AM · #19 |
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03/18/2003 01:05:49 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by joyeileen:
All of this scoring talk is so interesting. I too am concerned about my numbers to the point that I have given it considerable thought. As many of us have pointed - the first 20-25 scores seem to be higher then they generally go down... |
I've had a couple of occasions lately where the opposite happened -- the score gradually crept up during the week... |
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03/18/2003 01:10:09 AM · #21 |
I've been at this about a year only found three pics (1st place of course not mine of course) that were over 8
would love to see the breakdown of what the scores were for all the first place finishers...
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03/18/2003 08:16:49 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by rll07:
I've been at this about a year only found three pics (1st place of course not mine of course) that were over 8
would love to see the breakdown of what the scores were for all the first place finishers... |
- good point. |
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03/23/2003 08:08:33 PM · #23 |
ALL my shots seem to start lower than they end up - this week included (even the Green shot). I'm just above 6 and not sure I'm going to be able to sleep until deadline time. That's 5:00 a.m. here.
Ed
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03/23/2003 08:16:35 PM · #24 |
| It all seems about having good ideas, Timing and correctly meeting the challenge. I thought I submitted one of my best pictures this week and due to the fact that it does not explicitly show that it meets the challenge it is headed for my worst score! Ha!ha! Its all in fun. |
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03/24/2003 09:56:18 AM · #25 |
ahh, man. Still stuck there....
Even when i thought i had some awesome images....
Back to the drawing board...
It seems to me that i should take pictures of children, as these always seem to do well (if executed at an average level)
Message edited by author 2003-03-24 10:03:33.
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