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Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/01/2008 09:18:31 PM · #102

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

To the voters: Use the force. Let your conscience be your guide. Listen to your heart. Flip a coin or roll the dice. Blindly click the number keys. Whatever. Just vote.

Sometimes I swear things on this site are overanalyzed to death. Just enjoy it - it should be entertaining if nothing else. And look at it this way, it may be the only time you'll ever see the comment: "DNMC 10!"

AMEN BROTHER!!! I cannot wait. I love the humor aspect of it. WOO HOO - bring out your DNMC's and you'll get a 10 from me!!!!!

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

04/01/2008 09:26:17 PM · #103

Originally posted by inshaala:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
To clarify, the Advanced Rules still apply. Editing, date, etc., violations will still result in a DQ. Whether an entry meets the challenge is a matter for the voters.

If we're lucky, all the literal-minded voters' hard-wired little brains will explode at the thought of scoring this challenge! ;-)

~Terry

Now that is just unfair... Part of the Challenge or Criteria (whichever the C stands for in your version of the acronym DNMC) is actually adhering to the challenge rules... thus a photo which does not meet the rules therefore does not meet the challenge...

I saw the challenge and instantly submitted a photo - reason - i didnt follow the rules, but thought about not meeting the challenge. Should i get DQ'd for not meeting a challenge which tells me not to meet it? personally, i dont think so.

C stands for Challenge. Meeting the challenge and complying with the rules are two different things. Meeting the challenge simply means that your photograph represents the topic of the week.

Take, for example, the Warm Colors challenge. Let's say I submit a sunset photo full of reds, orange and yellow tones. The voters will likely find that meets the challenge, but oops! It seems I cloned out a distracting power line. That violates the Basic Editing rules and would result in a DQ in that challenge, even though the photogaph itself met the challenge..

Now the flip side. Let's say I submit the same photo, without the spot editing, to the cool colors challenge. I won't get DQ'd (since I followed the Challenge Rules), but most voters will find the photograph itself is DNMC and I'll end up with a low score. If someone recommends the photo for DQ based on not meeting the challenge, the request won't be considered, however, since not meeting the challenge is NOT grounds for DQ.

The Challenge Rules and the Challenge Topic/Criteria are two entirely different things. In fact, the Challenge Rules do not mention a requirement to meet the challenge at all, though the voting rules do say that voters should consider the challenge topic when voting, and adjust their scores accordingly.

~Terry

Message edited by author 2008-04-01 21:29:35.

jaysonmc

Nikon D200

Nikon MF 105mm f/2.5 AIS

04/01/2008 09:35:43 PM · #104

I "Did not meet the challenge" requirements
I "Did not meet the challenge" rules
I "Did not meet the challenge" description
I "Did not meet the challenge" topic
I "Did not meet the challenge"...

The point is it is about semantics. I was just concerned on new users would not understanding the Challenge Topic. Sure it makes sense for those who have been around for a while, but stuff like this should be cleared up either in the description or in the title before the challenge started. It shouldn't be up to the forum to figure out what is exactly meant by said challenge.

But of course I could be making mountains out of mole hills. :)

inshaala

Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM for Canon

04/01/2008 09:37:49 PM · #105

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by inshaala:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
To clarify, the Advanced Rules still apply. Editing, date, etc., violations will still result in a DQ. Whether an entry meets the challenge is a matter for the voters.

If we're lucky, all the literal-minded voters' hard-wired little brains will explode at the thought of scoring this challenge! ;-)

~Terry

Now that is just unfair... Part of the Challenge or Criteria (whichever the C stands for in your version of the acronym DNMC) is actually adhering to the challenge rules... thus a photo which does not meet the rules therefore does not meet the challenge...

I saw the challenge and instantly submitted a photo - reason - i didnt follow the rules, but thought about not meeting the challenge. Should i get DQ'd for not meeting a challenge which tells me not to meet it? personally, i dont think so.

C stands for Challenge. Meeting the challenge and complying with the rules are two different things. Meeting the challenge simply means that your photograph represents the topic of the week.

Take, for example, the Warm Colors challenge. Let's say I submit a sunset photo full of reds, orange and yellow tones. The voters will likely find that meets the challenge, but oops! It seems I cloned out a distracting power line. That violates the Basic Editing rules and would result in a DQ in that challenge, even though the photogaph itself met the challenge..

Now the flip side. Let's say I submit the same photo, without the spot editing, to the cool colors challenge. I won't get DQ'd (since I followed the Challenge Rules), but most voters will find the photograph itself is DNMC and I'll end up with a low score. If someone recommends the photo for DQ based on not meeting the challenge, the request won't be considered, however, since not meeting the challenge is NOT grounds for DQ.

The Challenge Rules and the Challenge Topic/Criteria are two entirely different things. In fact, the Challenge Rules do not mention a requirement to meet the challenge at all, though the voting rules do say that voters should consider the challenge topic when voting, and adjust their scores accordingly.

~Terry

I know where you are coming from in that DNMC is defined by it's use and that is through not meeting the title/descprition as judged by the voters... but when a challenge description explicitly asks you to not meet the specific challenge surely one must consider the whole entity of the challenge (the rules (which vary from challenge to challenge and thus define the challenge by their application), the title, and the description) to mean the "challenge".

We are just arguing semantics here, and i think i am going to have to agree to disagree, but have taken on board what you have said and changed my entry for something slightly different to avoid a DQ.

ETA - did i mention i worked as a certified TEFL teacher for a year ;)

Message edited by author 2008-04-01 21:40:11.

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/01/2008 09:38:07 PM · #106

Mole hills DNMC ;~p

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

04/01/2008 09:43:36 PM · #107

Originally posted by jaysonmc:

But of course I could be making mountains out of mole hills. :)

I actually suggested posting this as part of our April Fools' festivities, but Langdon wasn't too keen on the idea:

~Terry

neophyte

Nikon D810

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/01/2008 10:03:04 PM · #108

I just entered any photo....Was I wrong?

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

04/01/2008 10:25:40 PM · #109

Originally posted by neophyte:

I just entered any photo....Was I wrong?

Nope, as long as it doesn't meet the challenge. ;~p

sfalice

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS

04/01/2008 10:30:14 PM · #110

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by jaysonmc:
But of course I could be making mountains out of mole hills. :)

I actually suggested posting this as part of our April Fools' festivities, but Langdon wasn't too keen on the idea:

~Terry

Well,

nobody would certainly want to offend the moles and their hills.
Nor would anyone else. right?

sempermarine

Apple iPhone 5s

04/01/2008 11:53:45 PM · #111

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Sometimes I swear things on this site are overanalyzed to death. Just enjoy it - it should be entertaining if nothing else. And look at it this way, it may be the only time you'll ever see the comment: "DNMC 10!"

Elegantly said. Thank You!!

BeeCee

Nikon D40

04/01/2008 11:56:38 PM · #112

I am in. I shall win. The end.

or not...

mpeters

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

04/01/2008 11:57:12 PM · #113

I'm in with minutes to spare. I'm predicting low 4's. ;)

brownsm

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/01/2008 11:59:07 PM · #114

me, too. predicting low 8's. gotta think positive, right?