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02/05/2004 10:18:07 PM · #76 |
| ^^^ cant wait to hear the fight against that one :) ^^^ |
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02/05/2004 10:28:10 PM · #77 |
My first impression of the shoe-lace picture was "Wow that's pretty cool". Find Edges is a really fun filter to use and you can get some really cool effects with it, and this photographer used it well. But like others have said, it doesn't really fit the challenge that well because the filter effect is really just artifical light. It's not a real use of light in my opinion.
I didn't vote but I'd probably give it a 5 (maybe even a 4) just because I remove a lot of points if I feel an entry doesn't fit the challenge well. Others may subtract more points, others less. Just depends on the person. |
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02/05/2004 10:43:03 PM · #78 |
It would for me, and is a good example of why I'm having trouble over this argument. But then, I'm pretty familiar with the range of effects achieved over the years using a variety of physical, optical, and chemical processes to affect the final look of the "real" (not digital) photograph, so I don't assume that every unusual photo is the product of excessive editing.
But I think it's important that we each are free to have our own standards, and our own likes/dislikes. Ultimately I think the discussion can be healthy, even if the results are at times personally disappointing. |
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02/05/2004 11:01:50 PM · #79 |
hey paul(generalE),
i admire your point that you have stated elegantly... i am familiar with balck and white chemical photo production and that is why i am having a hard time understanding the wrongdoing in using photoshop.. you can not chemically process a digital photograph or use optical and physical tricks.. photoshop lets us do this... i am sure traditional photography had its issues with special effects created in darkroom.. but i dont think those are considered against the integrity of darkroom photography today.. i think actually that kind of effort is admired because there is a lot of work and creativity that has to be put in...
i dont see photoshop being judged in a different ground...
this made my 22nd cent...:) |
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02/06/2004 02:49:20 AM · #80 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
But I think it's important that we each are free to have our own standards, and our own likes/dislikes. Ultimately I think the discussion can be healthy, even if the results are at times personally disappointing. |
That is pretty much what I have been trying to say. I am partial to photographs that strike me as "real". Photography by its very nature, two dimensional, is unreal; however, my taste leans toward a photograph that depicts something that I can relate to. This may be because I am new to digital art, but as of right now I prefer the more realistic photos.
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02/09/2004 12:00:46 PM · #81 |
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02/09/2004 03:25:18 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by garrywhite2:
Going to re-ask this question so that it does not get lost.
Would this photo meet the requirement of photographic integrity?
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=49082
I ask this for two reasons. First it was a ribbon winner, and secondly because of the **many** comments that were made where people expressed an opinion that it looked more like a painting, or water color than it did a photograph.
From these comments I would not expect it to meet the definition of having photographic integrity.
"looks like an oil painting I dont think this is something I would normally like but it seems to work here. Good job."
"Very nice... looks like a painting."
"Almost looks like a painting with these extra saturated colors and the soft focus. I like it but am missing a strong focal point."
"Absolutely fabulous! Have'nt seen such an image as a photography before. Like a painting and very inspiring. I like the enourmous variation of color very much."
"I really like this image. It looks like a watercolor, almost. Congratulations. Excellent work. "
"that's beautiful! It looks as though you painted it, rather than photographed it. wonderful colours"
However this photograph won a ribbon.
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I gave that shot a 6 simply because I did think it looked a little unreal. The Soft Focus challenge was very difficult for me to vote on because I'm more a sharp image kind of gal so any shots that require a lot of blur or soft focus usually don't do as well with me unless it's done very well.
My opinion on this whole matter is simply, if you are achieving the effect you wanted entirely with photoshop why bother taking the picture at all? I mean, to me, the idea behind the challenge is to get as much of the effect they are asking for directly from your camera, not from the editing tools available to you. The after editing should enhance the photo, not take it apart and make it something completely different. As for the shots where they took out the boat and such, that enhanced the shot while leaving the original idea in tact. Using the edge filter to attain the pwl effect did not meet the challenge to me, nor did it enhance the original shot, it changed it so completely that I too would agree that the intregity of the shot was taken away.
Deannda
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