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04/17/2007 05:24:18 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by fir3bird:
Originally posted by Simms:
Guys & Gals,
my boy has just told me he has 6 weeks to complete his project on the history of any country in the world, he has decided to choose the USA, fair enough, however he should of mentioned this to us 5.5 weeks ago and thus has 3 days in which to get it started, completed and handed in. I know, bless him. grrrrrr.
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You might want to email, or heaven forbid, actually meet with his teacher and discuss this problem. The teacher might be inclined to email you your son's requirements in the future. You could tell your son not to repeat this again and you'd have a method of keeping track of him for a while til he hit the straight and narrow again. A last minute desperate search on the behalf of your son does nothing to help. IMHO
I'm certainly qualified to give you advice on this subject as I have NO children of my own! LOL |
As a teacher, I would, quite honestly, resent this extra work. Part of the "education" is taking responsibility and facing the consequences. If it is something that keeps happening, there are other problems that need to be dealt with. I agree with TechnoShroom. Failure can be a powerful learning tool.
Back to the course.
Next time tell him to choose some little, bitty, obscure country. . .:) |
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04/17/2007 05:58:01 PM · #52 |
This is the line we are taking, I will help him as much as possible, but I know he will not present a project anywhere near I know he is capable of and I have made it clear to him that if he wants to be a big boy and do big boy things, he needs to take responsibility for all his actions, and this includes when things go "tits up".
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by fir3bird:
Originally posted by Simms:
Guys & Gals,
my boy has just told me he has 6 weeks to complete his project on the history of any country in the world, he has decided to choose the USA, fair enough, however he should of mentioned this to us 5.5 weeks ago and thus has 3 days in which to get it started, completed and handed in. I know, bless him. grrrrrr.
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You might want to email, or heaven forbid, actually meet with his teacher and discuss this problem. The teacher might be inclined to email you your son's requirements in the future. You could tell your son not to repeat this again and you'd have a method of keeping track of him for a while til he hit the straight and narrow again. A last minute desperate search on the behalf of your son does nothing to help. IMHO
I'm certainly qualified to give you advice on this subject as I have NO children of my own! LOL |
As a teacher, I would, quite honestly, resent this extra work. Part of the "education" is taking responsibility and facing the consequences. If it is something that keeps happening, there are other problems that need to be dealt with. I agree with TechnoShroom. Failure can be a powerful learning tool.
Back to the course.
Next time tell him to choose some little, bitty, obscure country. . .:) |
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04/17/2007 06:10:19 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
Originally posted by ursula:
Originally posted by OmanOtter:
Originally posted by Scholten:
Make sure your son knows that "North America" includes more than just the United States, too! |
Yes, Canada is our biggest state! ;-) |
map of North America |
If it could only be true. But I guess I have to stay here. |
Hey where's everybody's favorite party state, Mexico? |
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04/17/2007 06:12:16 PM · #54 |
| I thought Mexico was Central America, not North America. |
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04/17/2007 06:17:56 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by karmat:
I thought Mexico was Central America, not North America. |
But central America isn't one of the 7 Continents. ;)
Wikipedia:
"North America is a continent in the Earth's northern hemisphere and (chiefly) western hemisphere. It is bordered on the north by the Arctic Ocean, on the east by the North Atlantic Ocean, on the southeast by the Caribbean Sea, and on the south and west by the North Pacific Ocean; South America lies to the southeast, connected to North America by the Isthmus of Panama. It covers an area of about 24,490,000 km² (9,450,000 mi²), about 4.8% of the planet's surface or about 16.4% of its land area. As of October 2006, its population was estimated at over 514,600,000. It is the third-largest continent in area, following Asia and Africa, and is fourth in population after Asia, Africa, and Europe." |
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04/17/2007 06:22:13 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by _eug:
Originally posted by karmat:
I thought Mexico was Central America, not North America. |
But central America isn't one of the 7 Continents. ;)
Wikipedia:
"North America is a continent in the Earth's northern hemisphere and (chiefly) western hemisphere. It is bordered on the north by the Arctic Ocean, on the east by the North Atlantic Ocean, on the southeast by the Caribbean Sea, and on the south and west by the North Pacific Ocean; South America lies to the southeast, connected to North America by the Isthmus of Panama. It covers an area of about 24,490,000 km² (9,450,000 mi²), about 4.8% of the planet's surface or about 16.4% of its land area. As of October 2006, its population was estimated at over 514,600,000. It is the third-largest continent in area, following Asia and Africa, and is fourth in population after Asia, Africa, and Europe." |
Fair enough. But, it seems like in my studies and teachings (and I could be off here, wouldn't be the first time), if you are looking at continents, Mexico is usually grouped with South America.
Or maybe they're just off partying all by themselves, and don't care. :P |
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04/17/2007 06:26:04 PM · #57 |
| Mexico is part of North America... it's never grouped with South America. |
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04/17/2007 06:31:55 PM · #58 |
| In the long posting a little huge thing was left out, the red Indians, the true owners of the land, now in reserves with treaties forced on them that have the cruelest inhuman terms. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki nukings were presented in a very nice human way; also with claims to Americans being the inventors of the nukes!! |
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04/17/2007 06:33:14 PM · #59 |
doyou need info on Canada? its in N.A, but then in the post you said USA so im confused.
but if its Canada im your man! being in highschool Social Studies, im a fountain of information! i know alot about Canadians involvment in the WW1(just finished that course!) |
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04/17/2007 06:41:47 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by karmat:
... if you are looking at continents, Mexico is usually grouped with South America.
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oh? Maybe only in American geography books.
//www.infoplease.com/atlas/northamerica.html
Message edited by author 2007-04-17 18:45:23. |
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04/17/2007 06:56:56 PM · #61 |
Perhaps not the best place to link to since it leaves out many of the countries of North America and the map would indicate that parts of Asia and South America are part of North America. |
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04/17/2007 06:57:02 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Mexico is part of North America... it's never grouped with South America. |
Amen!! thank you mate. But it is the same in Europe, they believe Mexico is part of Central or South America. Not that it really matters but hey... |
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04/17/2007 07:46:28 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Perhaps not the best place to link to since it leaves out many of the countries of North America and the map would indicate that parts of Asia and South America are part of North America. |
Very true. I did have another link ready that included a lot more countries, like those in the Caribbean. I chose this one as it was clear on Mexico.
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04/17/2007 08:11:32 PM · #64 |
It's pretty easy for an English lad. Just write as follows...
In the revolutionary war they kicked our arses. In 1812, they did it again. Now they are our best friends and will stand together with us anywhere, anytime.
Thats all that really matters. The rest is history. |
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04/17/2007 08:16:35 PM · #65 |
some great info here...too bad you don't get the Armed Forces Network we get overseas with the military...we don't see real commercials, we get lessons about each state, their captials, military traditions and history, great battles of different wars, military policies, etc. Wouldn't really be bad if you only saw them like once a month but since EVERY station has them you see them ALL the time.
I know more now about some of the states then I ever learned in public school...speaking of, I just learned Alaska is a state. When did that happen, next thing you know they'll make Hawaii one to counteract the coldness of Alaska. ;) |
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04/17/2007 08:29:43 PM · #66 |
| OK, I think I PM'd most of the people who contributed here, if I missed you out I am sorry! nothing personal. Thanks to all.. |
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04/17/2007 08:40:40 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Perhaps not the best place to link to since it leaves out many of the countries of North America and the map would indicate that parts of Asia and South America are part of North America. |
Very true. I did have another link ready that included a lot more countries, like those in the Caribbean. I chose this one as it was clear on Mexico. |
How about this instead?
//worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/namera.htm |
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04/17/2007 09:01:56 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Perhaps not the best place to link to since it leaves out many of the countries of North America and the map would indicate that parts of Asia and South America are part of North America. |
Very true. I did have another link ready that included a lot more countries, like those in the Caribbean. I chose this one as it was clear on Mexico. |
How about this instead?
//worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/namera.htm |
Good find.
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04/17/2007 09:04:46 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by OmanOtter:
Christopher Columbus was an Italian guy who got financed by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain to find a new route to India. He had a crazy idea that the world was round and that an alternate route to India could be found if he sailed west instead of east. |
According to discovery chanel this is not correct. Discover chanel showed how vasco da gama reached india. During that program, they showed that at one point in journey (Vasco followed lot of what Columbus did), he was supposed to wait for sea current to change.
the mistake columbus made was he did not wait till the current changed, and because of that he ended up going to other direction.
Vasco waited the sea current to become favourable and he got to correct side.
Of course Columbus time this knowledge was not available (or he just made a silly mistake).
Another interesting thing of whole episode was that, when portuguese reached india, they found that arabs were already there. They had good business with india.
So question is, whether the discovery of india was really a discovery.
Since india was already well connected. And portugese knew that india has trade with arabs.
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04/17/2007 09:09:24 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by OmanOtter:
Ok, so that's U.S. history in a nutshell. I'm sure I've left out a whole lot, but that's what sticks out in my mind. |
You left out the people who were already in the Americas when Columbus got here. |
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04/17/2007 09:23:23 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by OmanOtter:
Ok, so that's U.S. history in a nutshell. I'm sure I've left out a whole lot, but that's what sticks out in my mind. |
You left out the people who were already in the Americas when Columbus got here. |
one interesting read would be this, just read the excerpt :
//www.powells.com/biblio?show=HARDCOVER:USED:9780374292881:12.50&page=excerpt
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04/17/2007 09:24:02 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by OmanOtter:
Christopher Columbus was an Italian guy who got financed by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain to find a new route to India. He had a crazy idea that the world was round and that an alternate route to India could be found if he sailed west instead of east. |
According to discovery chanel this is not correct. Discover chanel showed how vasco da gama reached india. During that program, they showed that at one point in journey (Vasco followed lot of what Columbus did), he was supposed to wait for sea current to change.
the mistake columbus made was he did not wait till the current changed, and because of that he ended up going to other direction.
Vasco waited the sea current to become favourable and he got to correct side.
Of course Columbus time this knowledge was not available (or he just made a silly mistake).
Another interesting thing of whole episode was that, when portuguese reached india, they found that arabs were already there. They had good business with india.
So question is, whether the discovery of india was really a discovery.
Since india was already well connected. And portugese knew that india has trade with arabs. |
I'm not sure of what you mean with the sea current thing. I don't think that sailors, even centuries before Columbus, went the way the current pushed them. They used the wind to get the power to go ahead and the sun and the stars to set the direction to follow. Now, the sun rises at the east and sets at the west, so it's pretty easy when you wake up in the morning to understand that you are going the wrong direction. But maybe it's not what you meant and I didn't understand your post, if so please apologize me. |
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04/17/2007 09:38:06 PM · #73 |
Jeez, you guys rock! Can you do my kids' homework too? ;-)
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04/17/2007 09:46:34 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by gattamarta:
I'm not sure of what you mean with the sea current thing. I don't think that sailors, even centuries before Columbus, went the way the current pushed them. They used the wind to get the power to go ahead and the sun and the stars to set the direction to follow. Now, the sun rises at the east and sets at the west, so it's pretty easy when you wake up in the morning to understand that you are going the wrong direction. But maybe it's not what you meant and I didn't understand your post, if so please apologize me. |
I am sorry for not being very clear.
The sea current thing is simply
- going with the water or going against it.
The other part is very difficult to explain,
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If at the bottom tip the currect is as shown as above you end up going to left as pointed out by arrow. (Vasco's case)
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Now in columbus's case as shown above the current was in other direction, and this changes with time, you have to just wait at the tip of trianle to become favourable. He went along it, and ended up other side.
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04/17/2007 09:49:17 PM · #75 |
| And the award for most confusing ASCII art in a post goes to.... zxaar. :) |
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