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05/05/2006 06:14:03 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
I talked to a ranger about this in Jonathan Dickinson State Park. I was told it was for any photography that is to be offered for sale.
I thought that if I got a shot that great I'd go back and purchase a permit before I sold it. |
They'd better make sure their rangers know the regulations then, because that doesn't appear to be the criteria, from reading on. |
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05/05/2006 06:20:44 PM · #27 |
Guys, it's been like this for years.
You have to have a commercial permit to shoot commercially. If I profit on any of my DC shots, I need to go back and get a permit before I sell. Period.
You want to just make sure you let the Parks people know ahead of time when you enter the site that you are an amature shooting for pleasure. If they tell you they don't believe you- don't argue with them. It's not worth it. Ask to speak to the senior ranger.
The reason regs like this get put in place is because someone goes and decides to ignore the permit rules because it's a hassle. Take the time to find out if you need a permit to shoot. Don't queer the deal for the rest of us. :) |
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05/05/2006 06:29:12 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
I talked to a ranger about this in Jonathan Dickinson State Park. I was told it was for any photography that is to be offered for sale.
I thought that if I got a shot that great I'd go back and purchase a permit before I sold it. |
They'd better make sure their rangers know the regulations then, because that doesn't appear to be the criteria, from reading on. |
I've done some research about National and State Parks; and it seems that discrepancies like that are not uncommon. I've heard that you can call five different places and get five different interpretations.
Message edited by author 2006-05-05 18:30:25. |
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05/05/2006 07:07:37 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by blemt:
Don't queer the deal for the rest of us. :) |
Exactly! Around this area there are a lot of places with restrictions on commercial use of photos - certain Adirondack, Berkshire, Green and Catskill Mtn. regions - as well as numerous historical sites that require permits.
Message edited by author 2006-05-05 19:08:32. |
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05/05/2006 07:49:41 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
*tries to imagine the size reflectors needed to light up Half Dome... |
Camera store sales rep: "... and you can hook it up to a telescope and get great shots of the Moon and other celestial objects!"
Customer: "But wouldn't I need a really big flash?"
Message edited by author 2006-05-05 19:50:00. |
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05/05/2006 08:10:18 PM · #31 |
Read the press release more carefully. What is new is the congressionally mandated collection of "location fees". The requirement for permits, and the fees associated with them, have been on the books for a long time. I guess Congress got tired of using tax payers money to preserve and maintain often spectacular public lands so that advertisers could use them for such a small fee. I think it's only fair. There is great value to having something like the Grand Canyon or Yosemite as the backdrop for your product. I don't see what's insane about it.
As an aside, last weekend I saw a big wedding party being photographed in a county park. Photog had two assistants and they were ordering everybody, including passers-by, around like they owned the place. They drove off a pair of wood ducks I was trying to shoot. PITA I wonder if they had to get a permit and pay a location fee? I doubt it. One of the bridesmaids smiled at my camera when she saw me point my big Tammy 200-500 at them. Wonder how they would feel about using a public park as a backdrop if I had put their picture in a challenge? LOL. I'll return to that park on a week day. I hope the wood ducks will.
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05/05/2006 08:38:31 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
So what's the fee? $5? $10? I can't imagine they are going to sell the permits for $10,000. Sell you picture of Half Dome for $500 and you're still up $490. I think the fees will be no big deal if they are even enforced. I'd be willing to bet you could set up quite an elaborate photo shoot before the rangers even noticed. |
I have actually seen commercial photo/video permits that cost $5000. It is certainly not unheard of.
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05/05/2006 09:12:04 PM · #33 |
And for the canucks here... Parks Canada.
regs for "mountain national parks"
They vary for different regions, but Banff/Jasper area are probably the most photographed.
A crew of 1-6 has application fee of $150 and daily location fee of $500. It goes up (and up) from there.
Also need $2mill liability insurance. |
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05/05/2006 10:35:47 PM · #34 |
I googles news. HERE is an interesting article.
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05/05/2006 10:40:49 PM · #35 |
INAH in Mexico charges 3-5 times the normal entry fee to their national parks if you bring a video camera or a tripod. Still only works out to less than $10 most times. I just pay it.
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05/05/2006 10:50:17 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
As an aside, last weekend I saw a big wedding party being photographed in a county park. Photog had two assistants and they were ordering everybody, including passers-by, around like they owned the place. They drove off a pair of wood ducks I was trying to shoot. PITA I wonder if they had to get a permit and pay a location fee? I doubt it. One of the bridesmaids smiled at my camera when she saw me point my big Tammy 200-500 at them. Wonder how they would feel about using a public park as a backdrop if I had put their picture in a challenge? LOL. I'll return to that park on a week day. I hope the wood ducks will. |
LOL. It's like that every time too. I guess everyone feels they have to be as obnoxious as celebs but at least they do it in remote locales.
Message edited by author 2006-05-05 22:50:58.
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05/05/2006 11:11:59 PM · #37 |
This is just in the news because recently a movie was filmed and it turned out that it was filmed in part on a national park. And the law is there so thsat people don't profit without supporting the park for the common people.
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