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 06/13/2005 02:21:07 PM · #1
What would the vote average of the three ribbons combined, for all challenges be?
06/13/2005 02:23:14 PM · #2
Ummm ....... sorry....... but ........... can you please retype that or take my bottle of JD away from me?
 06/13/2005 02:26:44 PM · #3
I think he wants an average vote received by a ribbon-winning shot...
May be some SC member with access to database help
 06/13/2005 02:36:58 PM · #4
Was wondering what level the bar is set for the top pictures?
 06/13/2005 02:44:26 PM · #5
You can start by loooking here
 06/13/2005 02:48:16 PM · #6
I think what is being asked is:

1) average vote for all first place finishers
2) average vote for all second place finishers
3) average vote for all third place finishers

Meaning, sum the average scores of all first place finishers in all challenges and divide by the number of challenges and so on for second and third place.
 06/13/2005 02:54:37 PM · #7
This is not all of what you are looking for, but a quick run through MS Excel produced these numbers. This is compiled from all of the data in the Challenge History back to Jan 2002. 342 Challenges, both member and non-member.

Average Score of Winner: 7.37
Average Overall Score: 5.3
Average Low Score: 3.17
06/13/2005 03:07:39 PM · #8
Yes, sorry to be so obtuse about the wording of my question. This is what I was curious about. Interesting to know what average the voters determine to be a ribbon. Thank you.
 06/13/2005 06:22:00 PM · #9
Here are the numbers:

Average 1st place score: 7.359
Average 2nd place score: 7.073
Average 3rd place score: 6.924
 06/13/2005 07:08:57 PM · #10
Originally posted by gaurawa:
I think he wants an average vote received by a ribbon-winning shot...
May be some SC member with access to database help


Sorry, we don't have access to statistical information. In fact, now that DQs have gone public, there's very little that we have access to that you don't.
 06/13/2005 07:41:45 PM · #11
Originally posted by mk:
Sorry, we don't have access to statistical information. In fact, now that DQs have gone public, there's very little that we have access to that you don't.

Don't you guys have a forum that we can't see?

Message edited by author 2005-06-13 19:42:11.
 06/13/2005 07:43:16 PM · #12
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by mk:
Sorry, we don't have access to statistical information. In fact, now that DQs have gone public, there's very little that we have access to that you don't.

Don't you guys have a forum that we can't see?


That's a secret ;)
 06/13/2005 07:43:49 PM · #13
Originally posted by coolhar:
Don't you guys have a forum that we can't see?


We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you.

Seriously, though, we don't have access to the entry database itself.
 06/13/2005 07:50:23 PM · #14
Since this is stats type page I will ask this.

What is the difference in the average score, and the midrange score seen at the page srdanz linked?
 06/13/2005 07:54:16 PM · #15
The midrange score is halfway between the highest and lowest. The average score is the average of all entries for that challenge.
 06/13/2005 07:59:49 PM · #16
Shannon,

I agree with your explanation, but it is kind of useless, the way it is calculated. (adding the highest and the lowest, and dividing it by two.)

I thought (without looking at it first) that the midrange score would be the score received by an entry that placed in the middle (50% rank)

-Serge

Edit: I also believe that this is statistically correct way to calculate the value. Maybe D&L should look into this...

Message edited by author 2005-06-13 20:03:21.
 06/13/2005 08:26:06 PM · #17
Originally posted by scalvert:
The midrange score is halfway between the highest and lowest. The average score is the average of all entries for that challenge.


Thank you.
 06/13/2005 09:04:52 PM · #18
Originally posted by srdanz:
I agree with your explanation, but it is kind of useless, the way it is calculated.


I didn't say it was useful. I was just explaining what those numbers are (and it was an educated guess anyway).
 06/13/2005 09:10:33 PM · #19
I would like to see the Challenge History table look like this to include ribbon scores:
1-Challenge
2-Submission Dates
3-Type
4-Entries Highest - Replace Name with Blue Ribbon Score
5-Add- Red Ribbon Score
6-Add - Yellow Ribbon Score
7-Score Average
8-Score Midrange
9-Score Lowest
10-Score Total
11-Votes Avg #
12-Votes Total
13-Total Comments
14-Avg # Comments
06/13/2005 10:13:43 PM · #20
Never mind. :)

Message edited by author 2005-06-13 22:15:01.
 06/14/2005 10:59:01 AM · #21
I second that, with the change in the calculation of the median score (called midrange here) to represent the score of the 50th percentile photo.

Originally posted by SDW65:
I would like to see the Challenge History table look like this to include ribbon scores:
1-Challenge
2-Submission Dates
3-Type
4-Entries Highest - Replace Name with Blue Ribbon Score
5-Add- Red Ribbon Score
6-Add - Yellow Ribbon Score
7-Score Average
8-Score Midrange
9-Score Lowest
10-Score Total
11-Votes Avg #
12-Votes Total
13-Total Comments
14-Avg # Comments
06/14/2005 11:20:00 AM · #22
Originally posted by srdanz:
I agree with your explanation, but it is kind of useless, the way it is calculated ... I thought ... that the midrange score would be the score received by an entry that placed in the middle (50% rank)

As meaningless as it may be, "midrange" is the correct term for the value shown in the Challenge History table. What you are requesting is the "median". (reference: An Introduction To Statistics, Lesson 3).

Message edited by author 2005-06-14 11:21:32.
 06/14/2005 11:33:40 AM · #23
Originally posted by EddyG:

As meaningless as it may be, "midrange" is the correct term for the value shown in the Challenge History table. What you are requesting is the "median".


Got that. I corrected myself in a post right before yours. It is median...
 06/14/2005 01:52:35 PM · #24
Originally posted by srdanz:
Shannon,

I agree with your explanation, but it is kind of useless, the way it is calculated. (adding the highest and the lowest, and dividing it by two.)

It's useful for comparing with other challenges. And that would be lost if we changed horses in mid-stream by going to a median instead.
 06/14/2005 02:12:49 PM · #25
Maybe I shouldn't have said 'useless'. However, that information (midrange) is readily available if you look at the high and low score. The median value of the challenge eliminates extreme scores (such as the high-flying 7.675 naturally framed shot by Imaginner, followed by the distant 7.076 by nordic. The midrange suggests the value of 5.766 for the challenge, while the median value was 5.379 for the 50% shot

You can look at this value and know how much a person had to score to be placed in the top half of the challenge.

I know, statistics... not an exact science after all. It can be manipulated to everyone's liking.

I would not change the calculations midstream - I would do them for all challenges - the data is available, it is just a matter of changing the formula in the table. You'd still be comparing apples to apples.
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