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08/18/2004 01:06:06 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Spurs:
at least no right click and saving images |
yup ... i agree ... it's a good idea |
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08/18/2004 01:06:07 PM · #27 |
Those wishing to complain should use the form at this page
I'll be interested to see the reaction
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08/18/2004 01:07:25 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by mrwaffles989:
If someone stole my photo and I wasn't planning on it selling it or anything I would be happy. If it was that good to steal I would be proud. |
Wouldn't bother me either that people would use my photo, but common decency is just to ask permission first, right? Even little kids know that you're supposed to ask and that stealing is wrong.
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08/18/2004 01:07:54 PM · #29 |
Codes to stop right clicking won't stop the theft, anyone can print screen to capture the image and if it's saved at 72 dpi (and used full size on the website) they'll still get everything they could have via Save As.
That site seems to be a particular hotbed of theft.
Whilst it's impossible to stop people creating their own shots based on your ideas (which, to be honest, is what a number of the most popular images here have done themselves) I do think use of your actual images can be followed up, especially when shown on sites like photocontest who will surely be keen not to open themselves up to copyright related litigation.
Where it's copied and displayed on private websites it's harder to follow up but still possible.
Have you contacted site admins on that site?
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08/18/2004 01:08:37 PM · #30 |
From PSC's FAQ:
I own a copyright to an image on your site, who do I contact?
If you feel one of our featured images has been used without your permission please contact us and we will be glad to give proper credit, or pull the image if you have proper evidence that it is soley yours. If the image has been posted by a site user, the above applies as well, however, we do not host most the images posted to our forums, so we can only remove them from our site. If you wish to investigate the matter further or take legal action, please contact the host where the image is actually stored. To find this host, right click on the full-sized image and view its properties to get the domain name. We are willing to help in any way that we can.
Ed
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08/18/2004 01:08:56 PM · #31 |
you can always do this to your image...
it's distracting,
but it works
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08/18/2004 01:10:14 PM · #32 |
Yeah but, got to start some where.
Of course who's gonna take my stuff lmao.....
Message edited by author 2004-08-18 13:12:04. |
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08/18/2004 01:10:43 PM · #33 |
Photo manipulations are not uncommon but normally people use stock images unless they have specific permission (although I'm sure some people use images where they dont too). The difference is usually the manipulations are quite indepth and change the image a lot. This guy has done very minimal manipulation and seems to have not only 'stolen' the image but the original idea along with it. He hasnt used the imaged in a creative way, just changed it enough to claim he did something.
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08/18/2004 01:11:02 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by hopper:
Originally posted by Spurs:
at least no right click and saving images |
yup ... i agree ... it's a good idea |
That won't do much of anything. I can be printed out, it can be screen captured. It would be hardly worth the time and energy to put into place.
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08/18/2004 01:11:31 PM · #35 |
:-) More info - the guy doing this stuff has the user name zylot1 at Lycos. As per my previous post, Lycos are of course hosting these shots, and therefore share reponsibility.
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08/18/2004 01:14:39 PM · #36 |
I went to photoshopcontest.com and left the operators a message and a link to this thread here.
Basically they are disclaiming any responsibility for this kind of stuff:
Their FAQ item #19
Personally, I urge all of you to protest to the ops at that site, I would, but I haven't seen any of my images posted there.
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08/18/2004 01:15:00 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Nelzie:
Originally posted by hopper:
Originally posted by Spurs:
at least no right click and saving images |
yup ... i agree ... it's a good idea |
That won't do much of anything. I can be printed out, it can be screen captured. It would be hardly worth the time and energy to put into place. |
Not much time and energy its just a code. Once in place alway in place. |
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08/18/2004 01:16:43 PM · #38 |
Why that no-talent, little thief! Ya know, I wouldn't even bother to give him the courtesy of contacting him before you sik a lawyer on him. Jesus, some people on this planet piss me off! Whatever happened to freakin' morals?!?
Hey, I'm sorry this happened to you and I can only imagine how you must feel. Good luck in getting this issue resolved!! |
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08/18/2004 01:17:15 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Nelzie:
... the only way to stop that from happening is to either blind everyone on the planet, a very messy and dangerous job I might add... |
I have my sharp, pointy stick ready ! ! ! !
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08/18/2004 01:20:28 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Spurs:
Originally posted by Nelzie:
Originally posted by hopper:
Originally posted by Spurs:
at least no right click and saving images |
yup ... i agree ... it's a good idea |
That won't do much of anything. I can be printed out, it can be screen captured. It would be hardly worth the time and energy to put into place. |
Not much time and energy its just a code. Once in place alway in place. |
That would less effective at stopping image thieves then 'The Club' is at stopping Auto Thieves in the United States. Here's a hint at how ineffective that would be, there are at least three ways that have been remarked to me from a retired cop about how to quickly disable or remove 'The Club' that won't seriously get into the way of a thief that really wants to steal your car.
Due to that, I have to say that it would be a waste of time and energy to implement. Plus, it may also marginally increase bandwidth usage for it to be a 'feature' of the site. It may not seem like much, but if the code is only a handful of KBs and is downloaded enough, it sure can add up. |
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08/18/2004 01:23:27 PM · #41 |
The images are actually hostsed at Lycos. the only legal representative I could find for Lycos can be contacted through datenschutz@lycos-europe.com
I would think that if a few of us write, something will eb done fairly rapidly.
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08/18/2004 01:26:35 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Nelzie:
Originally posted by Spurs:
Originally posted by Nelzie:
Originally posted by hopper:
Originally posted by Spurs:
at least no right click and saving images |
yup ... i agree ... it's a good idea |
That won't do much of anything. I can be printed out, it can be screen captured. It would be hardly worth the time and energy to put into place. |
Not much time and energy its just a code. Once in place alway in place. |
That would less effective at stopping image thieves then 'The Club' is at stopping Auto Thieves in the United States. Here's a hint at how ineffective that would be, there are at least three ways that have been remarked to me from a retired cop about how to quickly disable or remove 'The Club' that won't seriously get into the way of a thief that really wants to steal your car.
Due to that, I have to say that it would be a waste of time and energy to implement. Plus, it may also marginally increase bandwidth usage for it to be a 'feature' of the site. It may not seem like much, but if the code is only a handful of KBs and is downloaded enough, it sure can add up. |
ok I understand where you are coming from. But its a war we may never win. But if you don't fight back, then were just lossers. So we must look other places to win? |
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08/18/2004 01:29:17 PM · #43 |
There's always public humiliation: simply become a member of the PShop site and use it's forums to mercilessly rag on the offender for such blatant theft. Of course, the site isn't about taking photos, it's about manipulating photos, so there's no requirement for originality.
Incidentally, as a professional artist, I have a small amount of familiarity with copyright law. The law says that there are some basic protections regardless of the inclusion of the copyright symbol, and regardless of registering the image as copyrighted. No (c) is a low level of protection, inclusion of the (c) offers more protection and formal registration of the copyright offers the most protection.
However, it's essentially a question of damages: even though the PShop Dork absolutely stole and manipulated the images from DPC, he's not gaining anything material from the theft. If the PShop site offers cash or goods as a prize, then there would be harm done to you by using your image, and therefore an actionable claim against PSDork.
Copyrighting is basically the tool of someone who earns money from their image to protect their right to earn income from their labor. I.E., a commercial venture.
In this case, good etiquette would be to ask the author for permission. |
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08/18/2004 01:29:32 PM · #44 |
| I just joined the site photoshop contest site and posted a comment on the mirror ball one, which is displayed prominently as a "leading entry". Realistically I think that all that can be done is to get this loser shunned. |
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08/18/2004 01:30:46 PM · #45 |
| I think the website should be responsible for removing the pirated pics ASAP. The example of seeing your pic on a poster in a store and this problem are not that far apart. The site owners are profiting from the site, therefore they are using your stolen pics to make money. Granted they dont know that when someone posts a pic, but they have a responsiblity to remove the pics once they are aware of it |
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08/18/2004 01:32:05 PM · #46 |
Good news
I contacted the site through their own contact page, and the link to my infringed image has already been removed.
Thanks to the guys at PSC for their quick work
Ed
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08/18/2004 01:33:32 PM · #47 |
Using copyrighted work without permission is stated as a no-no in their user's agreement.
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08/18/2004 01:34:52 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by Nelzie:
Honestly, there isn't much that can be done about this. As another poster has stated, once you post it on the Internet, it is 'free'. |
Posting on the internet only makes an image freely available, not free. It's just like leaving your keys in your car- anyone can take it, but it's still a crime.
While screen captures are always an option to steal an image, not everyone thinks of that. Simply coding a transparent box over this site's images would discourage some people. Right-clicking on an image then would only get you the invisible box, not the photo.
Sean- I would be as vocal as possible on the other site. The more noise you make, the more people will be on guard against such infringement and the more the site operators will want to avoid it. |
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08/18/2004 01:39:49 PM · #49 |
what about a default dpchallenge watermark applied to all images entered for the challenges? Sort of like the corbis watermark... It could either be applied by the site automatically or we could download an image that we could layer over our pictures in photoshop, but this would be optional. thoughts?
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08/18/2004 01:48:16 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by hopper:
Originally posted by Spurs:
at least no right click and saving images |
yup ... i agree ... it's a good idea |
This approach doesn't work with Netscape 7. It let's you save the image anyway.
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