About my "SHOE" entry's 19 one votes

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 ASPH

03/03/2010 05:02:11 AM · #40

Originally posted by Nuzzer:

I didn't vote but the challenge description says "take an interesting photo of shoes" and it's not a shoe therefore it's DNMC in my book. You knew that, take the 1's like a man.

Excuse me! "Take it like a man" You need to get your facts sorted. I am not complaining or crying about anything at all or questioning whether it is or is not a DNMC. If you have eyes then use them and read the info I supplied under my image. Then you will see that I admit it is not perfect and that I knew many would not get it. My thread is not about complaining, it is just about pointing out to some of those who voted a 1 and might not have seen the shoe that there is in fact a shoe in the picture. I am not trying to justify that as a reason for my image being fully compliant to the challenge theme. Maybe it should have been DQ'd but that was not the point here. If it was DQ'd I would have accepted that. Try to THINK before jumping to conclusions. The whole world would be a better place for that.
Cheers
Fred

Message edited by author 2010-03-03 09:02:49.

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 ASPH

03/03/2010 05:07:57 AM · #41

Originally posted by kirbic:

I never fell because of this so no need to dust myself off. I didn't complain about the ones or two's or three's either. I never took this in a bad way at all as you seem to think. All I wanted to do was point out to those who voted a 1 that there is in fact a shoe in the picture that they might not have seen. And I realize that some of those who gave me a 1 saw the shoe and still decided to give me a 1 because they felt that it was not executed very well or because it did not fit the challenge theme the way it should. That is all fine and i accept that. I am not complaining. I am not trying to justify my low score at all. I even admitted in the comment under my image that I know it is not well executed and that the lighting is too harsh ect. I just wanted to point out for the benefit of those who did not see the shoe that it is there. And I presumed that most of those who did not see the shoe were a percentage of the voters who gave me a one. Not all, but a percentage. Looks like one has to be extremely clear with anything one says here because there are those in the wings who can't wait to pounce and attack and take one to task over things that they perceived were implied. What motivates that behavior beats me. By the way, I am not saying you are one of those Kirbic.
Regards
Fred

Message edited by author 2010-03-03 09:36:34.

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 ASPH

03/03/2010 05:22:05 AM · #42

WOW! There are really a few people here who always interpret things the wrong way. Even if you put a giant STOP sign in front of them they would more then likely put their foot on the accelerator.
For their benefit let me state it once again. I did NOT start this thread to complain about anything. I am NOT complaining about anything. I have stated in the info supplied underneath the image in question that I admit it is not technically well done at all. If it was DNMQ'd I would accept it. I am NOT fighting anybody about the fact that the lighting is harsh and the image is generally badly executed all round and I am NOT arguing and saying that it should have done better then it did. I knew that it would not do well even before I entered it into the contest. I started this thread only to point out to those who voted a 1 that there is in fact a shoe in the image and I wanted them to see it. That's all...because I presume that some of them voted a 1 because they could not see the shoe. Some might have voted a 1 because they felt the imge was just too badly done or deserved a 1 because it did not fit the challenge theme even though they could see the shoe. That's fine with me. I don't have a issue with them at all or even with those who did not see the shoe. Like I said it was solely for pointing out to those who really did not see the shoe that it is there. Just because i would like for them to see that there is a shoe where they thought there was none. Now do you understand? Thus no need to tell me to take it like a man and to stop crying and to pick myself up and dust myself off. Jeeshhhhhh.....
And a number of posts back in this thread I already posted the following:

Interesting and valid observations all. I agree that it actually does not fit the challenge in the true sense of the theme as it's not a shoe per se. Technically it also leaves quit a lot to be desired.

But still some people feel the need to add their 2 cents worth and rub my nose in a stance they perceive me to have where there is none.

Message edited by author 2010-03-03 05:32:52.

Gatorguy

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

03/03/2010 05:40:03 AM · #43

Originally posted by ThingFish:

WOW! There are really a few people here who always interpret things the wrong way. Even if you put a giant STOP sign in front of them they would more then likely put their foot on the accelerator.
For their benefit let me state it once again. I did NOT start this thread to complain about anything. I am NOT complaining about anything. I have stated in the info supplied underneath the image in question that I admit it is not technically well done at all. If it was DNMQ'd I would accept it. I am NOT fighting anybody about the fact that the lighting is harsh and the image is generally badly executed all round and I am NOT arguing and saying that it should have done better. I started this thread only to point out to those who voted a 1 that there is in fact a shoe in the image and I wanted them to see it. That's all...because I presume that some of them voted a 1 because they could not see the shoe. Some might have voted a 1 because they felt the imge was just too badly done or deserved a 1 because it did not fit the challenge theme even though they could see the shoe. That's fine with me. I don't have a issue with them at all. Like I said it was solely for pointing out to those who really did not see the shoe that it is there. Now do you understand? Thus no need to tell me to take it like a man and to stop crying and to pick myself up and dust myself off. Jeeshhhhhh.....
And a number of posts back in this thread I already posted the following:

Interesting and valid observations all. I agree that it actually does not fit the challenge in the true sense of the theme as it's not a shoe per se. Technically it also leaves quit a lot to be desired.

But still some people feel the need to add their 2 cents worth and rub my nose in a stance they perceive me to have where there is none.

I think you are also making assumptions when you say those who voted a "1" didn't see the shoe. Perhaps they saw a *shape* of a shoe and felt, as I do (but I didn't vote), that it didn't meet the description of the challenge. I personally accept "footwear" (except socks etc.) as reasonable, but this, no. I like your analogy with the stop sign though and would say it applies to challenges. If the challenge says take a picture of a rain forest, someone will enter a picture of a desert and say it was a rain forest 100 million years ago. Then, of course, the blame for a low score lies with me (and those of my ilk) for not being creative enough to "think outside the box".

Issus

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03/03/2010 05:47:44 AM · #44

for those saying that nikonjeb's boots are not shoes... shoes for me mean footwear, same for wikipedia: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe

I was worried about entering my entry (Hockey skates) thinking people wouldnt think of them as "shoes", even though some of us tend to have them on out feet more often than anything else haha.

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 ASPH

03/03/2010 06:32:38 AM · #45

GATORGUY wrote:
QUOTE"I think you are also making assumptions when you say those who voted a "1" didn't see the shoe. Perhaps they saw a *shape* of a shoe and felt, as I do (but I didn't vote), that it didn't meet the description of the challenge."UNQUOTE

Gatorguy read my comment again and see that you failed to read it properly the first time. You also only want to read what you want to read and like to jump to wrong conclusions like some of the others.

Here is what I wrote about that:
"Some might have voted a 1 because they felt the image was just too badly done or deserved a 1 because it did not fit the challenge theme even though they could see the shoe. That's fine with me"

please mod

Message edited by author 2010-03-03 06:34:46.

ragamuffingirl

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03/03/2010 06:53:01 AM · #46

I agree! Mod!!! Plus, it's too early in the morning for this - someone give me some coffee and nobody has to die!

Gatorguy

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03/03/2010 07:15:02 AM · #47

Originally posted by ThingFish:

Ummm, you go back a read what you wrote before you conclude that others did not understand it or "read it properly".

" I started this thread only to point out to those who voted a 1 that there is in fact a shoe in the image and I wanted them to see it. That's all...because I presume that some of them voted a 1 because they could not see the shoe."

LOL

oh, and no more PMs, OK?

love

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03/03/2010 07:49:18 AM · #48

blah blah blah... you will NEVER figure out voters, why the same people keep winning when their images are mediocre, etc. : )

Do something positive... smile and move on.

Gatorguy