Challenge: Fine Arts: Exhibit 1 - DPChallenge Forums

03/02/2010 02:11:27 PM · #30

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Ok, everyone go read posthumous's guide to voting on artistic images again..

Then go have a look at a Google search for Modern Art

The Google search may just turn out more fluff than stuff. I think Don's tutorial more valuable than much I have read on the subject in a lifetime. The beautiful thing about it is that anyone should be able to draw from it, directly and immediately, without having to jump, stretch or contort. Stretching is always good though before exercising...

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zeuszen

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03/02/2010 02:35:49 PM · #31

Originally posted by Louis:

Yeah, but what does it all mean?

Meaning is that which exists through itself.

pointandshoot

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03/02/2010 03:01:06 PM · #32

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Stretching is always good though before exercising...

Ideally, I suppose stretching would be a way of everyday thinking. But, since it's not always possible to predict the free time available for stretching (let alone, exercise), I need a stretch that will most effectively get me from here to there in good time. If you have a recommendation, I would be grateful... perhaps a short mantra... or a quick spell involving fertile chicken eggs and the hair of goat...

Louis

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03/02/2010 03:03:57 PM · #33

Specifically regarding Greg Crewdson -- what does it all mean?

I can be accused of producing fine art photography, and have described my stuff that way many times, accurately or not. 1x, the bastion of mass fine art, is one of my haunts. My favourite photographers are the likes of Carter and Lars Raun.

What does it all mean, in terms of Crewdson? Hollywood actors in Hollywoodesque sets masquerading as suburban vignettes masquerading as nightmares masquerading as art.

"Hack" comes to mind. Very expensive hackery.

zeuszen

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03/02/2010 03:53:24 PM · #34

Originally posted by pointandshoot:

Originally posted by zeuszen:
Stretching is always good though before exercising...

Ideally, I suppose stretching would be a way of everyday thinking. But, since it's not always possible to predict the free time available for stretching (let alone, exercise), I need a stretch that will most effectively get me from here to there in good time. If you have a recommendation, I would be grateful... perhaps a short mantra... or a quick spell involving fertile chicken eggs and the hair of goat...

You're the one with immediate access to eggs and goat hair. And from the looks of your images, your magic is quite efficient, as it is.

glad2badad

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03/02/2010 04:03:21 PM · #35

Originally posted by hojop25:

...I just took the perfect picture for this challenge, by complete accident, well not complete just mistake

:-D Love it when that happens! Good luck.

pawdrix

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03/02/2010 05:13:58 PM · #36

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by Louis:
Yeah, but what does it all mean?

I'm not sure if you meant that tongue-in-cheek, but if not, why does it have to mean something? It's contemporary art photography. Sometimes the mystery is enough.

I think it looks cool but it probably doesn't amount to much more than "slickness" in the slickest sense. I mean the dude spends a buttload of money to light a scene like they would in a movie and then he takes a still. Not exactly rocket science or photographic genius but it does look wicked neat-O. Kinda reminds me of this...

...but a photographic version. A lot of people are recreating Dutch classics or Golden Age stuff using modern technology (Photoshop). I find it ironic that folks are digitally circling back to the 17th Century.

I agree with Louis. 1x hosts some very nice FA and Crewdson's kinda hack but it does look purdy cool.

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pedrobop

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03/02/2010 10:43:28 PM · #37

Now you guys confused me. I was trully believing that pure fine art photography was represented by Greg Crewdson and Jeff Wall nowadays. It's not?
Well, if not, what does represent great examples of fine art photography?

03/02/2010 10:59:25 PM · #38

Originally posted by pedrobop:

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03/02/2010 11:00:03 PM · #39

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by pedrobop:
Now you guys confused me. I was trully believing that pure fine art photography was represented by Greg Crewdson and Jeff Wall nowadays. It's not?
Well, if not, what does represent great examples of fine art photography?

1x

Not that this will help. :)

RKT

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03/02/2010 11:07:20 PM · #40

Originally posted by RKT:

I just have to say this because many are posting links to what they think "fine art" photography is, or as examples, etc. in this thread and the other floating around.

To me, the point of this challenge is to pull something from your own head and imagination, and not to copy or emulate some other photographers work. Take a chance, step away from your comfy zone. A favorite quote:

Trust that little voice in your head that says "Wouldn't it be interesting if..."; And then do it. ....Duane Michals

Make a photograph for yourself, truly for yourself, and don't think about pleasing a crowd. Show us what's in your noggin and make a photograph that isn't of something, but is something. To me, this is how art is born.

Bold is mine..."Fine Art" isn't a look or a style. 1x is hardly the end all and be all of fine art imagery. Go to an actual museum or gallery and poke around...or poke around your own mind and heart for a change and listen to the little voices.

: }

ETA: One person's example of fine art is another persons example of cliched garbage...it is all subjective. If you think something is Fine Art Pedro, then for you it is. To each their own. Be true to yourself and you'll be fine.

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Melethia

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03/02/2010 11:58:23 PM · #41

The woman is very wise - listen to her. Ignore everything else (except of course the voices in your head.) :-)

Which reminds me - saw a guy in Home Depot a few weeks ago with a shirt that said "I do everything the voices in my wife's head tell me to do"

GeneralE

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03/03/2010 12:07:52 AM · #42

The San Francisco Academy of Art is holding their acution of Fine Art Photography next week. Catalog is available on-line.

tnun

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03/03/2010 12:15:16 AM · #43

Agree,

RKT.

As well,

posthumous's guidelines for commenting, inverted(?), will serve quite nicely.

ThingFish

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03/03/2010 10:01:53 AM · #44

I do take it that the purpose here is not too photograph an existing work of art such as a painting or a sculpture.

glad2badad

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03/03/2010 10:06:39 AM · #45

Originally posted by GeneralE:

The San Francisco Academy of Art is holding their acution of Fine Art Photography next week. Catalog is available on-line.

Thanks for that link (2nd one) and the Catalog. Some nice images in there (a few probably NSFW) ... Has me reconsidering my entry now. :-/

citymars

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03/03/2010 11:04:14 AM · #46

What that catalog should tell everyone is that their definition of fine art is as broad as ours is likely to be.

ThingFish

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03/03/2010 11:06:36 AM · #47

I guess it's is fine to just post a photo of some artwork, painting or sculpture or some architecture I take it.

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03/03/2010 11:43:48 AM · #48

Originally posted by ThingFish:

I guess it's is fine to just post a photo of some artwork, painting or sculpture or some architecture I take it.

.. Probably not. I say probably, because this challenge could probably suffer a creative entry or two that did use some painting etc.

Now, let's talk about how this could work...

Qualifies (maybe): A painting with heavy impasto, perhaps you could take a photo using the shadows of the impasto as an entirely new work of art, from a work of art.

Disqualifies (definitely): A painting on a wall, that you stand six feet back from and fire the shutter..

Essentially, if it looks ANYTHING like the original, I would say it's a DQ, of course that's entirely up to the Site Council.

-Cheers, and don't try to find an easy way out like using pre-existing artwork, I suggest that you start looking for big areas of good color, that make interesting lines, shapes, shadows, etc, and attempt to capture that, essentially, try to make your photograph look like a piece of artwork (or more accurately, make it a piece of artwork..), and the best entries (IMHO) will not need much, if any, processing...

Cheers,
-Cory

ThingFish

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03/03/2010 11:54:26 AM · #49

Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by ThingFish:
I guess it's is fine to just post a photo of some artwork, painting or sculpture or some architecture I take it.

.. Probably not. I say probably, because this challenge could probably suffer a creative entry or two that did use some painting etc.

Now, let's talk about how this could work...

Qualifies (maybe): A painting with heavy impasto, perhaps you could take a photo using the shadows of the impasto as an entirely new work of art, from a work of art.

Disqualifies (definitely): A painting on a wall, that you stand six feet back from and fire the shutter..

Essentially, if it looks ANYTHING like the original, I would say it's a DQ, of course that's entirely up to the Site Council.

-Cheers, and don't try to find an easy way out like using pre-existing artwork, I suggest that you start looking for big areas of good color, that make interesting lines, shapes, shadows, etc, and attempt to capture that, essentially, try to make your photograph look like a piece of artwork (or more accurately, make it a piece of artwork..), and the best entries (IMHO) will not need much, if any, processing...

Cheers,
-Cory

Thanks Cory,
No, I don't want to take an easy way out at all, far from it. I just wanted that cleared up as it was worrying me. I feel that it would not fit the spirit of the challenge at all. The way I see it is that one has to create something entirely new not take a photo of something that already exists just the way it is. In fact I already have 2 potential entries I took yesterday. I would like to send these 2 to some volunteers who can tell me which of the 2 they prefer as i am finding it difficult to decide which one would be the more suitable.

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