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 01/18/2010 06:33:29 AM · #26
There seems to be a lot of expertise here so I'm 'fishing' for a bit of advice (non-tropical freshwater fish):

Let me tell you a story:

A few days ago we decided to do a major clean of our aquarium as some of the glass had got a bit algae bound (though the water quality was good and well filtered). We moved all four of our fish into a temporary holding tank (storage bin) and cleaned the tank and then repopulated. After this, one of our fish (Shadow) started to be bullied by the other fish and then by one fish in particular (Chubbles) - we pulled Shadow out to give it a rest. it became very still in the temporary tank and we became a little worried for it so we moved it back into the main tank and observed. Once again Shadow was harassed by Chubbles, we then removed Chubbles from the tank for a few hours and then Chubbles became very still too so we put that one back in and observed again. Finally all was harmonious and although Shadow hid inside the cave and pipes ornaments for 2 days - it did then come out and swim with the others again.

We did wonder whether a particular scenario had taken place and it seems it had since we now have a bunch of eggs around the base of the plastic plant ornament - I believe that a change in water temperature can bring this on?

Chubbles now seems to be the fish protecting the eggs whilst one of the other four fish (Sparky) tries to eat them. I think our tank is at capacity and as such we would need to get a second aquarium if we were to keep more fish. We do have a second (smaller) tank we could use as a nursery if we need to.

Some questions if I may:

If there are eggs are they necessarily fertilised?

We first noticed the eggs this morning, we believe we might have about a week to hatching - is that right?

If we look after the eggs - what sort of hatching to egg ratio might we expect?

If we do produce fish, do local shops take them or will their caution for introducing fish from unfamiliar stock prevent them from taking them off our hands?

I hope this make some sense and I hope you might be able to offer some advice.

Many thanks

Paul

01/18/2010 06:57:30 AM · #27
Originally posted by karmat:
Does anyone out there keep tropical freshwater fish?



fresh water got me thinking - do fishes pee. :-)
 01/18/2010 09:36:54 AM · #28
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by karmat:
Does anyone out there keep tropical freshwater fish?



fresh water got me thinking - do fishes pee. :-)


yes
 01/18/2010 09:38:36 AM · #29
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
There seems to be a lot of expertise here so I'm 'fishing' for a bit of advice (non-tropical freshwater fish):

Let me tell you a story:

A few days ago we decided to do a major clean of our aquarium as some of the glass had got a bit algae bound (though the water quality was good and well filtered). We moved all four of our fish into a temporary holding tank (storage bin) and cleaned the tank and then repopulated. After this, one of our fish (Shadow) started to be bullied by the other fish and then by one fish in particular (Chubbles) - we pulled Shadow out to give it a rest. it became very still in the temporary tank and we became a little worried for it so we moved it back into the main tank and observed. Once again Shadow was harassed by Chubbles, we then removed Chubbles from the tank for a few hours and then Chubbles became very still too so we put that one back in and observed again. Finally all was harmonious and although Shadow hid inside the cave and pipes ornaments for 2 days - it did then come out and swim with the others again.

We did wonder whether a particular scenario had taken place and it seems it had since we now have a bunch of eggs around the base of the plastic plant ornament - I believe that a change in water temperature can bring this on?

Chubbles now seems to be the fish protecting the eggs whilst one of the other four fish (Sparky) tries to eat them. I think our tank is at capacity and as such we would need to get a second aquarium if we were to keep more fish. We do have a second (smaller) tank we could use as a nursery if we need to.

Some questions if I may:

If there are eggs are they necessarily fertilised?

We first noticed the eggs this morning, we believe we might have about a week to hatching - is that right?

If we look after the eggs - what sort of hatching to egg ratio might we expect?

If we do produce fish, do local shops take them or will their caution for introducing fish from unfamiliar stock prevent them from taking them off our hands?

I hope this make some sense and I hope you might be able to offer some advice.

Many thanks

Paul


unfortunately, the only thing I can add to the conversation is: the one time I actually saw babies in the aquarium, I watched in horror as the parents ate them.
 01/18/2010 10:00:50 AM · #30
Originally posted by karmat:
if this tank goes well, i would like to experiment with a salt water one. or a bigger freshwater one. this is a hobby that could get expensive quickly. (not unlike photography, hahaha).

anyone know of any cheap hobbies i could try?


Geology... Rocks are mostly free.
 01/18/2010 10:03:58 AM · #31
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
The spoted cats are cool. They look like little sharks. If your tank is still fairly new, one thing I don't think anyone else mentioned in this thread yet is Ich. Might be something to watch for Keep a close eye on them for tiny little white spots, It normally shows up on their fins and tails but is not limited to those areas. If you see any you will need to get some medicine for them, The one that I used most was called "Quick Cure", You put a drop or two or more pending on size of tank in the water daily for about a week or two. If you would have to treat them You need to remove any charcoal filters you might have in the tank. Enjoy your new fish.



Good advice here, but keep in mind that if you do have crabs/shrimp/other invertebrates, you will want to remove them before using (most) any ick-clearing product- because the ick clear is usually a copper based medicine, it's toxic to the little buggers...

Cheers,
Cory
 01/18/2010 10:23:26 AM · #32
We don't have any inverts at this point, and aren't planning on it, but that is good advice.

One of our mollies gave birth over the weekend. We only saw one fry, and haven't seen him in a while, so we figure he may have been a snack for the corycat, or maybe is still in hiding.

hopefully, i'll get some pictures of some them eventually. :P

it's fun to watch. :)
 01/18/2010 11:01:05 AM · #33
Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
The spoted cats are cool. They look like little sharks. If your tank is still fairly new, one thing I don't think anyone else mentioned in this thread yet is Ich. Might be something to watch for Keep a close eye on them for tiny little white spots, It normally shows up on their fins and tails but is not limited to those areas. If you see any you will need to get some medicine for them, The one that I used most was called "Quick Cure", You put a drop or two or more pending on size of tank in the water daily for about a week or two. If you would have to treat them You need to remove any charcoal filters you might have in the tank. Enjoy your new fish.



Good advice here, but keep in mind that if you do have crabs/shrimp/other invertebrates, you will want to remove them before using (most) any ick-clearing product- because the ick clear is usually a copper based medicine, it's toxic to the little buggers...

If memory serves me right, one should not use any ick clearing products in aquariums housing non-scaled fish as it will kill them. This is definitely something you would want to check with a specialist... it would be real sad if in getting rid of the ich you managed to kill all of your fish.

Ray


Message edited by author 2010-01-18 11:03:15.
 01/18/2010 03:23:14 PM · #34
Originally posted by karmat:
We don't have any inverts at this point, and aren't planning on it, but that is good advice.

One of our mollies gave birth over the weekend. We only saw one fry, and haven't seen him in a while, so we figure he may have been a snack for the corycat, or maybe is still in hiding.

hopefully, i'll get some pictures of some them eventually. :P

it's fun to watch. :)


I strongly suggest looking into them... They're great cleaners and fun to watch... I suggest ghost shrimp to start out on...
 01/21/2010 07:27:48 AM · #35
By way of an update we seem to have quite a high number of viable fertilised eggs on their way - and some friends who want to adopt!
 01/21/2010 07:46:58 AM · #36
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
By way of an update we seem to have quite a high number of viable fertilised eggs on their way - and some friends who want to adopt!


what kind of fish do you have?
you can get a separator that is inserted in your tank to protect the little ones. Also if you have lots of rocks and hiding places you will have a few survivors too (depending on the size of the tank too)
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