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 10/26/2009 12:02:07 PM · #26
I have my fingers and toes crossed!!!
 10/26/2009 12:13:46 PM · #27
Ok, the first program worked, but wouldn't let me save unless I paid for it so now I'm going the Lexmark route. We shall see. I'm pretty confident. Thanks again, everybody. I totally agree with jeger- many people don't think that viewing and rotating will change anything. BUT IT DOES.
 10/26/2009 12:16:49 PM · #28
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Ok, the first program worked, but wouldn't let me save unless I paid for it so now I'm going the Lexmark route. We shall see. I'm pretty confident. Thanks again, everybody. I totally agree with jeger- many people don't think that viewing and rotating will change anything. BUT IT DOES.


almost everything changes it......you should drag and drop directly from the card to a new file on your hd...then copy that to a working file, and leave the origional alone.

Message edited by author 2009-10-26 12:17:29.
 10/26/2009 12:22:31 PM · #29
Yeah, I learned about that after the fact. 10 minutes and 13 seconds to go and we'll know the outcome. (teeth chattering, knuckles white)
 10/26/2009 12:25:57 PM · #30
...or shoot RAW - even if you play with a RAW file in LR, the file is unaltered and passes validation. On the very rare occassions I shoot JPEG I drag and drop like David, and then work from a copy. The original is never opened.

Edit to add - GOOD LUCK!

Message edited by author 2009-10-26 12:26:20.
 10/26/2009 12:43:55 PM · #31
Ok, ran the Lexmark program. It shows the date I took it but down at the bottom with all the info, it says date created: today and date modifed today because it was saved as a recovered file. But the other time when I did something in Microsoft Photo ... is no longer there. NOW WHAT? I may pull out all my hair and be bald within hours.

Message edited by author 2009-10-26 12:46:14.
 10/26/2009 12:58:43 PM · #32
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Ok, ran the Lexmark program...

It's LEXAR (Lexmark makes printers). If you recovered the file off the card, just send it in and we'll take a look.
 10/26/2009 01:08:15 PM · #33
Perhaps she DID run the Lexmark program and now has prints of all her files....

:-)
 10/26/2009 01:13:06 PM · #34
Dang Judy :( --I've got my fingers crossed for you too!
 10/26/2009 01:20:03 PM · #35
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Thanks, Shanon. I'm trying cardrecovery as mentioned in PC Magazine as the one to use. If that doesn't work, I'll give the Lexmark one a try. This is maddening. I thought I was seasoned enough to know better, but I guess not. DUHHH :~P


Originally posted by jeger:
Most people usually don't find out how the process works until they need to get validated. This information could be better conveyed to the masses.

It's quite clearly explained in numerous threads as well as in the rules & regs.

This is an issue that comes up time and time again and the only way we get it is if one of us, or a friend has it happen.

The only reason I know about it is because a really good friend got snagged by the software and we commiserated so I know about it 'cause of that.

The only way any of the rules & regs will actually work is if you actually read them.
 10/26/2009 01:31:13 PM · #36
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
The only way any of the rules & regs will actually work is if you actually read them.


Are you giving me a lecture? :~P I totally understand but didn't realize this was what happened.
 10/26/2009 01:36:31 PM · #37
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
The only way any of the rules & regs will actually work is if you actually read them.


Are you giving me a lecture? :~P I totally understand but didn't realize this was what happened.


He was talking to jeger.
 10/26/2009 01:40:29 PM · #38
OOPS. hahahaha Ok Not on the defensive at all. This is just so frustrating.
 10/26/2009 01:46:09 PM · #39
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
The only way any of the rules & regs will actually work is if you actually read them.


Originally posted by Jutilda:
Are you giving me a lecture? :~P I totally understand but didn't realize this was what happened.


Originally posted by karmat:
He was talking to jeger.

I was actually ruefully talking about how this pretty much seems to happen to all of us at one time or another......

I was commenting on how lucky I was that I found out at someone else's expense.

She, not so much.....8>(

Judy, you think I'd give you a lecture????

I *know* you'll fly up here and kick my @$$!!!!!
 10/26/2009 01:52:49 PM · #40
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
It's quite clearly explained in numerous threads as well as in the rules & regs.


Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I was commenting on how lucky I was that I found out at someone else's expense.


If it's so clear, then how did you miss it? :p

It's hard to look for something when you don't know it's an issue. Many people obviously think any file is acceptable to submit, which is why we have this problem over and over.
 10/26/2009 02:04:21 PM · #41
Well, the last one didn't work either - I don't know if once you run the recovery program if you have to "save it" and that messes it up too. Can I just tell you how frustrated I am. Trying another one. GEEZ~~~~~

Ok, boys, let's play nice on the playground. No need to have ANY more arguments. This is to help out me and me only ROFL.
 10/26/2009 02:07:02 PM · #42
OMG - Judy!!! I've got my finger's crossed for you!!!
 10/26/2009 02:26:08 PM · #43
Originally posted by karmat:
if you shot in jpeg, zero assumption recovery has worked very well for me -- heaven knows i used it a lot a couple of months ago (i insisted on shooting with what i knew, or thought, was a bad card)

//www.z-a-recovery.com/ This one is free and will show you everything on the card. I am not sure of it's validity for DPC but you will get something back.

A question for SC, has anyone ever turned in a recovered .jpeg and had it pass validation? I don't thik I have heard of it passing before.
 10/26/2009 02:30:48 PM · #44
Originally posted by jdannels:
A question for SC, has anyone ever turned in a recovered .jpeg and had it pass validation? I don't thik I have heard of it passing before.

Sure, plenty of times. I went through this with my very first ribbon, too, and recovered the file off my CF card.
 10/26/2009 02:49:04 PM · #45
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Well, the last one didn't work either - I don't know if once you run the recovery program if you have to "save it" and that messes it up too.

Are you sure you sent the right file? The second one was the same as the first (modified by transfer software two weeks ago). I don't think that could have been recovered today unless you had opened and saved it directly on your CF card back then.
 10/26/2009 03:20:21 PM · #46
Originally posted by scalvert:
Are you sure you sent the right file? The second one was the same as the first (modified by transfer software two weeks ago). I don't think that could have been recovered today unless you had opened and saved it directly on your CF card back then.

Could be ...
Originally posted by Jutilda:
I worry that the way I originall viewed it may have accidentally turned it portrait if I shot in in landscape, but I didn't change anything. I usually open it the first time to view from the card and would it have saved it without my knowing it?
 10/26/2009 03:55:25 PM · #47
Well, I'm running a different program at the suggestion of Levyj413 and it is taking forever. With the Lexar (I'm sorry, I said Lexmark - duh)after it was complete, I had to save it and it saved but still showed the Windows Photo display thing. URGH I might be screwed, but I'm going to try every avenue before giving up. SC is being uber nice, so thanks, guys. I'm still working on recovering it.

Message edited by author 2009-10-26 15:56:20.
 10/26/2009 04:19:28 PM · #48
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
It's quite clearly explained in numerous threads as well as in the rules & regs.

Originally posted by jeger:
If it's so clear, then how did you miss it? :p

It was easy......I didn't read the requirements for preserving an image for validation.

I figured that since I wasn't likely to win anything, why worry about validation?

Funny thing is that the first time I had to worry about validation was six months or so later when I got a second place ribbon.....I had shot it in RAW, so I *still* wasn't aware of the transfer software modification for another six months or so when a friend got snagged by it.

She had not read her ToS either, only she hadn't shot in RAW.......DQ.
Originally posted by jeger:
It's hard to look for something when you don't know it's an issue. Many people obviously think any file is acceptable to submit, which is why we have this problem over and over.

Yes, but that's only the user's fault BECAUSE they don't read for it.

I have found that I know how to submit an original file elsewhere because I learned it here......and again, their ToS is the same for submitting originals.

There is a lot of stuff that's written clearly here that I don't know because I didn't read it......that doesn't mean it's the site's responsibility to make it clearer.

Technically, I lied when I said I read the ToS.....but I don't most places......that doesn't mean when I get snagged because of it that I'm going to say the site should be clearer on the topic.

Thing is.....if you shoot in RAW, or if you're smart and always save an original file and don't let some slave program open your jpegs, it's NOT an issue.

It sucks, but speaking for myself, this way is usually how I learn things.
 10/26/2009 04:50:05 PM · #49
I've got my fingers crossed for you Jutilda.
 10/26/2009 05:01:47 PM · #50
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
It's quite clearly explained in numerous threads as well as in the rules & regs.

Originally posted by jeger:
If it's so clear, then how did you miss it? :p

It was easy......I didn't read the requirements for preserving an image for validation.

I figured that since I wasn't likely to win anything, why worry about validation?

Funny thing is that the first time I had to worry about validation was six months or so later when I got a second place ribbon.....I had shot it in RAW, so I *still* wasn't aware of the transfer software modification for another six months or so when a friend got snagged by it.

She had not read her ToS either, only she hadn't shot in RAW.......DQ.
Originally posted by jeger:
It's hard to look for something when you don't know it's an issue. Many people obviously think any file is acceptable to submit, which is why we have this problem over and over.

Yes, but that's only the user's fault BECAUSE they don't read for it.

I have found that I know how to submit an original file elsewhere because I learned it here......and again, their ToS is the same for submitting originals.

There is a lot of stuff that's written clearly here that I don't know because I didn't read it......that doesn't mean it's the site's responsibility to make it clearer.

Technically, I lied when I said I read the ToS.....but I don't most places......that doesn't mean when I get snagged because of it that I'm going to say the site should be clearer on the topic.

Thing is.....if you shoot in RAW, or if you're smart and always save an original file and don't let some slave program open your jpegs, it's NOT an issue.

It sucks, but speaking for myself, this way is usually how I learn things.


It is not easy to find the information. I learned the hard way, and then went searching -- still didn't come across it until 3 hours of searching later. Didn't know what to search for. Why not just put a link to the information on the rules page? "for further clarification, please read..."

Jutilda, hang in there girl! You can do it!
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