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10/04/2009 04:27:09 PM · #1
I had a photoshoot with a stylist, makeup artist, and professional model, and for the first time used artificial lighting outside as well as ambient light. I used an external flash with a PC cable, and even though these aren't the kind of photos the DPC crowd would usually vote high for, I would like opinions on how I could have done better, or if I did alright, please. :)

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Thank you!

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10/04/2009 04:29:34 PM · #2
i think ya lighting is excellent im impressed with the closeups and your model is good too
10/04/2009 04:57:27 PM · #3
Originally posted by toddster45:

i think ya lighting is excellent im impressed with the closeups and your model is good too


Thank you. :)
10/04/2009 05:10:41 PM · #4
I Looooooove that last shot. it's wonderful. I do think your lighting needs some work though. Not in the last shot so much but in the first few you posted for sure. The harsh shadows are not very flattering for her. Especially the large shadow from her nose in the third shot down. The lighitng on the fifth and last shots are wonderful though. Your model has fantastic bone structure. What a beauty. Congrats on the shoot.
10/04/2009 05:28:39 PM · #5
Originally posted by Jaded_Housewife:

I Looooooove that last shot. it's wonderful. I do think your lighting needs some work though. Not in the last shot so much but in the first few you posted for sure. The harsh shadows are not very flattering for her. Especially the large shadow from her nose in the third shot down. The lighitng on the fifth and last shots are wonderful though. Your model has fantastic bone structure. What a beauty. Congrats on the shoot.


Would the harsh lighting be better avoided with a diffuser, or with moving the lighting closer to the front? I find it hard to tell with flash lighting, because I can't see it until it goes off. When a model is moving in front of you, that can be really difficult to control the shadows.

Edit: Thank you for all your kind words though! It means a lot to me.

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10/04/2009 05:29:06 PM · #6
I think the lighting is too hard. A bare flash is rarely flattering, especially for fashion type shoots.

I'm not sure why some of the images have green casts to them, but again, it doesn't flatter the model.

If this was your first time then you did a good job but with some softer light, more room around the model in the frame and a bit more life these would be rather nice.
10/04/2009 05:34:20 PM · #7
Originally posted by Tez:

I think the lighting is too hard. A bare flash is rarely flattering, especially for fashion type shoots.

I'm not sure why some of the images have green casts to them, but again, it doesn't flatter the model.

If this was your first time then you did a good job but with some softer light, more room around the model in the frame and a bit more life these would be rather nice.


Would a diffuser help? The colors are from post-processing. It's my style. I've been shooting models for close to a year and a half now, it's just now I started using artificial light. Can I ask why you think there needs to be more room around in the frame? I got out of doing that, I used to include too much so I had to crop it down, and it was a waste. How would I make "more life?"
10/04/2009 05:41:52 PM · #8
Originally posted by sammigurl:

Originally posted by Tez:

I think the lighting is too hard. A bare flash is rarely flattering, especially for fashion type shoots.

I'm not sure why some of the images have green casts to them, but again, it doesn't flatter the model.

If this was your first time then you did a good job but with some softer light, more room around the model in the frame and a bit more life these would be rather nice.


Would a diffuser help? The colors are from post-processing. It's my style. I've been shooting models for close to a year and a half now, it's just now I started using artificial light. Can I ask why you think there needs to be more room around in the frame? I got out of doing that, I used to include too much so I had to crop it down, and it was a waste. How would I make "more life?"


A diffuser isn't a bad thing but wouldn't be the way to fix the lighting in those first few shots and a couple of the close ups. the main light source(flash) was just coming at her from too far to the side. moving the light more in front of her(not directly, but just a bit more than it was) would help.
10/04/2009 05:50:21 PM · #9
yes a diffuser would help. I'm thinking that in bright daylight like that, a reflector would be more efficient and easier to use to obtain better results.

having more room in the frame would make the model stand out a bit more due to the contrast in colour and shape, wouldn't seem so claustrophobic around the model, would provide more copy space for editors, layout designers etc to visualize and it just seems to me that in a few of the shots, the model is standing to close to the edge to make it look pleasing (numbers 2 & 6), whether or not that's a 'waste' is debatable but I think it would help the overall composition and look of the shoot by allowing the model more room because as it is it looks restrictive and tight and rigidifies it.

If the green thing is your style then whatever, i just think it makes her look like a zombie. It kinda looks like you went for cross-processing but didn't quite get there.

And what I meant by 'more life' was that a lot of the pictures could be great with a bit of a kick in the ass or a shot in the arm in photoshop. They look flat and stale and nothing really jumps out or makes me stop and check it out. My favourite one is #4 with the window behind because that at least sets the scene and lets me know where the picture took place and what the surroundings are and contributes to a story- it's very hard for ppl to have that connection when the background is just grass or without showing more of the surrounding area (see earlier point).

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