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09/18/2009 08:33:08 PM · #101 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by SEG:
Well I'm at the bolwing alley now. I'll rejoin this convo after a few beers when I get home. |
Hey wait, thought you didnt have internet access at home!!!!!!!!!!!! hehehehe =P |
edited to remove message. |
I was just teasing, no harm meant!!! |
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09/18/2009 08:34:05 PM · #102 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by SEG:
Well I'm at the bolwing alley now. I'll rejoin this convo after a few beers when I get home. |
Hey wait, thought you didnt have internet access at home!!!!!!!!!!!! hehehehe =P |
iPhone for posts
library for submissions.
I explained this in a unrelated thread about 1-2 weeks ago. You can probably look it up on my profile page in my posts after you leave a comment :) should still be on there.
OK I need to stop typing and enjoy bowling. Defending myself on a forum is hard work.
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09/18/2009 08:37:17 PM · #103 |
Originally posted by SEG:
OK I need to stop typing and enjoy bowling. Defending myself on a forum is hard work. |
Take a photograph of your nerdy bowling shoes with your iPhone and post it here! LOL!
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09/18/2009 08:38:33 PM · #104 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Tell me, what is DPC doing to be part of the solution? This is a sincere request as I too do not have access to the site code. |
What, exactly, would you like us to do...? Any picture you post anywhere on the Internet has the potential of being "borrowed" by others. There's simply not a whole heck of a lot that can be done about that. As I've said to many people in the past, if you're worried about having a shot of yours stolen, then the Internet is the last place you should be putting it. |
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09/18/2009 08:39:03 PM · #105 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by SEG:
Well I'm at the bolwing alley now. I'll rejoin this convo after a few beers when I get home. |
Hey wait, thought you didnt have internet access at home!!!!!!!!!!!! hehehehe =P |
iPhone for posts
library for submissions.
I explained this in a unrelated thread about 1-2 weeks ago. You can probably look it up on my profile page in my posts after you leave a comment :) should still be on there.
OK I need to stop typing and enjoy bowling. Defending myself on a forum is hard work. |
I know, I know, I was just teasing you. Probably one of my foot in mouth operations though!!! No harm was meant! |
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09/18/2009 08:40:43 PM · #106 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It's been discussed over and over that there is no practical way to prevent someone from ripping off your photo if they want to (yet people clamor to enter bigger images), DPC DOES automatically rename your file (so if someone downloads it they have no claim of unknowing infringement), and DPC has no jurisdiction to participate in an infringement claim (unless they post a screenshot of the whole page). Just what is your solution?
PS: SC members have no access to the site code. |
To start with, most of the images that are stolen are stolen AFTER challenges are over. (not stolen during challenges by our own members) After the challenge and voting is DONE, give members the option of having their own uploaded watermark applied to their own images. It would in no way effect challenges because they would still be voted on without any watermark, but after voting is finished let the owner of the photo have control over if it is watermarked or not. There is absolutely no reason this cannot be done. Heck, they could even make that an option for paid members only to boost revenues! The only reason I could see that they would not do so is because they would be afraid of losing a bit of advertising revenue because not as many photos would be poached from the site through direct linking, which I am guessing likely results in advertising clicks/revenue. If that is the case then the site is blatently allowing the stealing of the photographer's photos so that the site can make money...and obviously that is not a nice thing to do.
My second point is that since the photographer retains the ownership of the photo, it is insane that when a person leaves the site they are not allowed to have their photos removed. Essentially if you leave DPC, you are forced to allow YOUR photos stay on the site and help to make the site money, whether you like it or not....you have given them a perpetual right to make money from your photo for free! That needs to be changed as well.
I have made both of these points before and sent it in as a ticket as well...but to no avail. The site owners will not consider anything that might in some way decrease revenue, even if it is at the continued expense of the photographers that make the site what it is!
I apologize for the thread drift, but since it was in responce to an open question put out their by a member of the SC I hope it is ok. :) |
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09/18/2009 08:46:41 PM · #107 |
Originally posted by basssman7:
The only reason I could see that they would not do so is because they would be afraid of losing a bit of advertising revenue because not as many photos would be poached from the site through direct linking, which I am guessing likely results in advertising clicks/revenue. |
Inbound links to a website increase its all important google page-rank. Besides, most of the photo stealing I've seen happening isn't via hot-linking.
eta: argh! I'm thread hi-jacking. This should probably be in it's own thread tbh.
Message edited by author 2009-09-18 20:47:42. |
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09/18/2009 08:47:33 PM · #108 |
Originally posted by basssman7:
I have made both of these points before and sent it in as a ticket as well...but to no avail. The site owners will not consider anything that might in some way decrease revenue, even if it is at the continued expense of the photographers that make the site what it is! |
Stop paying your $25 and eventually changes will come. |
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09/18/2009 08:47:47 PM · #109 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Judi,
it is a decent size office for a major corporation. I didn't claim to have no interaction with them. I even stated that I bought my camera from one of them and he introduced me to the website. I only assume noone else is on this site because noone else has ever mentioned an interest in photography. I shouldn't assume though....I know. As far as Monday being fun, yes it will. Because I will definetly go to their offices and joke with them about being booted. I find it funny.
As far the 1 vote I wasn't saying they were giving each other ones. What I was saying is that one vote probably didn't skew the results one way or the other. Not saying that it is right to do it but just stating that I probably didn't matter in the end unless they had several accounts each.
As for the ISP stuff that was just an assumption I made according to what I read in the first post. But it seems I am wrong about that because it seems to be a voting issue or a shared username issue. |
Yeah, cheating's just hilarious. |
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09/18/2009 08:47:53 PM · #110 |
never mind...as usual
Message edited by author 2009-09-18 20:52:32. |
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09/18/2009 08:50:50 PM · #111 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by SEG:
Well I'm at the bolwing alley now. I'll rejoin this convo after a few beers when I get home. |
Hey wait, thought you didnt have internet access at home!!!!!!!!!!!! hehehehe =P |
edited to remove message. |
I was just teasing, no harm meant!!! |
no i understood what you meant very late, i am tubelight. |
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09/18/2009 08:51:34 PM · #112 |
Okay , no more ganging up on SEG. It's against the rules and we will be told off for it
edited cos I think I may have made several member puke a little in their mouths!
Message edited by author 2009-09-18 20:55:30. |
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09/18/2009 09:04:20 PM · #113 |
Originally posted by basssman7:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It's been discussed over and over that there is no practical way to prevent someone from ripping off your photo if they want to (yet people clamor to enter bigger images), DPC DOES automatically rename your file (so if someone downloads it they have no claim of unknowing infringement), and DPC has no jurisdiction to participate in an infringement claim (unless they post a screenshot of the whole page). Just what is your solution?
PS: SC members have no access to the site code. |
To start with, most of the images that are stolen are stolen AFTER challenges are over. (not stolen during challenges by our own members) After the challenge and voting is DONE, give members the option of having their own uploaded watermark applied to their own images. It would in no way effect challenges because they would still be voted on without any watermark, but after voting is finished let the owner of the photo have control over if it is watermarked or not. There is absolutely no reason this cannot be done. Heck, they could even make that an option for paid members only to boost revenues! The only reason I could see that they would not do so is because they would be afraid of losing a bit of advertising revenue because not as many photos would be poached from the site through direct linking, which I am guessing likely results in advertising clicks/revenue. If that is the case then the site is blatently allowing the stealing of the photographer's photos so that the site can make money...and obviously that is not a nice thing to do.
My second point is that since the photographer retains the ownership of the photo, it is insane that when a person leaves the site they are not allowed to have their photos removed. Essentially if you leave DPC, you are forced to allow YOUR photos stay on the site and help to make the site money, whether you like it or not....you have given them a perpetual right to make money from your photo for free! That needs to be changed as well.
I have made both of these points before and sent it in as a ticket as well...but to no avail. The site owners will not consider anything that might in some way decrease revenue, even if it is at the continued expense of the photographers that make the site what it is!
I apologize for the thread drift, but since it was in responce to an open question put out their by a member of the SC I hope it is ok. :) |
Well stated and thanks for articulating what I too am concerned with. The idea of watermarking is recognized as an effective means of deterring theft by most stock agencies. It is not employed on this site for some unknown reason.
Most every other photo site recognizes your right to remove photos from the site in the event you not longer are a "member", this is not the case here.
As the site relies upon access to unimpaired site photos as an ongoing solicitation to secure paid membership, it receives compensation from our images in a manner not unlike a stock agency. It differs only in such a way that all financial benefits are retained by DPC and none are shared with the artists which unknowingly "donate" the "product".
Stock agencies are rabid when protecting their submitters and implement tangible "good faith" measures to ease the increasing concerns of copyright infringement. Though the site submissions are renamed for identification purposes, little is done to wield this identification as a means of protecting the artist.
By implying an "ownership" to the perpetual use of our images for profit, is it not incumbent upon DPC to at least offer reasonable measures to protect the images, or offer assistance in reasonable recourse, as a sign of good stewardship? |
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09/18/2009 09:06:03 PM · #114 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Okay , no more ganging up on SEG. It's against the rules and we will be told off for it
edited cos I think I may have made several member puke a little in their mouths! |
Wonderful imagery. |
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09/18/2009 09:13:16 PM · #115 |
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Okay , no more ganging up on SEG. It's against the rules and we will be told off for it
edited cos I think I may have made several member puke a little in their mouths! |
Wonderful imagery. |
Happy to help!! lol |
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09/18/2009 09:14:25 PM · #116 |
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Okay , no more ganging up on SEG. It's against the rules and we will be told off for it
edited cos I think I may have made several member puke a little in their mouths! |
Wonderful imagery. |
I want to know the original, unedited version! |
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09/18/2009 09:15:37 PM · #117 |
| I can not do that, cos whatever street cred I had would go *poof* just like that if I answered |
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09/18/2009 09:27:45 PM · #118 |
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by SEG:
OK I need to stop typing and enjoy bowling. Defending myself on a forum is hard work. |
Take a photograph of your nerdy bowling shoes with your iPhone and post it here! LOL! |
this took about 30 minutes to post so please don't ask for photo validation again:)
Link to photo
Message edited by alanfreed - Editing to link to gigantic photo.. |
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09/18/2009 09:28:51 PM · #119 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I can not do that, cos whatever street cred I had would go *poof* just like that if I answered |
Awww... drat! ok, pm me with it instead :D |
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09/18/2009 09:29:17 PM · #120 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by SEG:
OK I need to stop typing and enjoy bowling. Defending myself on a forum is hard work. |
Take a photograph of your nerdy bowling shoes with your iPhone and post it here! LOL! |
this took about 30 minutes to post so please don't ask for photo validation again:)
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those are indeed, very nerdy bowling shoes! |
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09/18/2009 09:32:02 PM · #121 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by SEG:
OK I need to stop typing and enjoy bowling. Defending myself on a forum is hard work. |
Take a photograph of your nerdy bowling shoes with your iPhone and post it here! LOL! |
this took about 30 minutes to post so please don't ask for photo validation again:)
Link to photo |
Man, you are so banned from the nude challenge, ,,, ,,, unless you wax!!!!!!!!!!!! lol |
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09/18/2009 09:32:04 PM · #122 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by SEG:
OK I need to stop typing and enjoy bowling. Defending myself on a forum is hard work. |
Take a photograph of your nerdy bowling shoes with your iPhone and post it here! LOL! |
this took about 30 minutes to post so please don't ask for photo validation again:)
Link to photo |
Composition lacks some and its quite noisy, but VERY sexy legs! ;) |
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09/18/2009 09:33:05 PM · #123 |
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09/18/2009 09:38:49 PM · #124 |
Composition lacking? If I was irenem this would be a ribbon winner. I didn't even clone anything out!
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09/18/2009 09:40:08 PM · #125 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Composition lacking? If I was irenem this would be a ribbon winner. I didn't even clone anything out! |
Ya should ave dude!!!!!!! |
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