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08/21/2009 10:30:05 AM · #1
Hi, sorry for another silly question, but how can i see every edition steps that were made on a shot?
08/21/2009 11:22:09 AM · #2
Anyone?
08/21/2009 11:25:03 AM · #3
Not sure if this is what you want, but in your WINDOW options, choose to show the HISTORY panel. This will show all the steps you have taken while editing.

In your preferences you can also select to keep a detailed history in a text file.

Message edited by author 2009-08-21 11:56:56.
08/21/2009 03:18:55 PM · #4
Hi CEJ, sorry, i had to go too..Ok, i opened the history panel, but it only shows 1 change at the image: "I want to know how can i see what was changed and saved from the original image. Like the council does to know if the person broke the edition rules.
08/21/2009 03:26:45 PM · #5
There's software for finding out if a picture was edited that i've seen but it's pricey. link. As for doing so on photoshop, i have no idea. haha
08/21/2009 03:30:14 PM · #6
Originally posted by pedrobop:

Hi CEJ, sorry, i had to go too..Ok, i opened the history panel, but it only shows 1 change at the image: "I want to know how can i see what was changed and saved from the original image. Like the council does to know if the person broke the edition rules.


If you've already "saved" the image & closed it, then the history isn't going to show you anymore.. If you want to keep that information, then you have to save your file twice.. Once, with out flattening it and saving it as a PSD file which is saving it as a photoshop file, then you have to flatten it and save it as a JPG file so you can submit it in a challenge.. For images that I do a lot of work on, I always save all of my steps with out flattening them, then I save it as a PSD file so if there's a question (as if like I would win a ribbon, hee hee) then I could go back to it and prove I didn't do anything illegal.. Otherwise, there is no way to go back once it's been flattened and saved..

Now, the SC tries to recreate the image legally.. They require the person who submits the image to provide them with the steps they took to get the image where it's at, then they do that themselves and if they get the same results and nothing illegal was done, whalla !! it's all good..

08/21/2009 03:37:47 PM · #7
Oh, ok, thanks..guess i'm not going to worry about that anymore, i'm just a little nervous about the edition because i took some steps i'm not used to, and there were steps that i took and didn't want too, then i was always closing the image for no risks and opening it again, so i could do the editing on advanced rules and get a good result also. I probabbly didn't do anything prohibited and good too, because i'm not that good in photoshop.
But thanks for the time anyway!
08/21/2009 04:57:18 PM · #8
If you want to save everything you do in CS4 to every pic go to preferences and check the history log box and detailed (this will save even the values of the settings you choose, as in not just levels, but the input and output values as well) and select a file to save this in.



Message edited by author 2009-08-21 16:59:12.
08/21/2009 05:04:11 PM · #9
Originally posted by CEJ:

If you want to save everything you do in CS4 to every pic go to preferences and check the history log box and detailed (this will save even the values of the settings you choose, as in not just levels, but the input and output values as well) and select a file to save this in.



So, question... Where do you access this information once it's been saved ??? Is this only for the history box or will this save what was done when you go and look at the image again after it's been saved and closed, then reopened ??? If so, then it's what I've been looking for and certainly a better answer to what Pedro needs then what I suggested..

thanks CEJ... :-)
08/21/2009 05:08:17 PM · #10
If you click the thumb you will see there check box for text file and a place to choose the file you want and where that file is located on your Hard Drive. I believe it saves a default name and location, but I chose where I wanted it to be saved. All you need is a text file (.txt).

It doesn't do anything for the image. It only saves all the steps you take when editing an image and their values. Even for most, if not all, plug-ins. (I know it does for Topaz and Flaming Pear plug-ins anyway as that is what I currently use). Let me see if I cant get a few screen shots together to illustrate.

Message edited by author 2009-08-21 17:11:16.
08/21/2009 05:21:33 PM · #11
Like I said, choosing those options will save everything you do, continuously unless you always change/create new text files.

The first thumb just shows, on my Mac anyway, that I chose to save the text file "EditHistory.txt" in this directory. The second thumb is an example of what the text file looks like.

08/23/2009 03:12:46 PM · #12
Originally posted by CEJ:

Like I said, choosing those options will save everything you do, continuously unless you always change/create new text files.

The first thumb just shows, on my Mac anyway, that I chose to save the text file "EditHistory.txt" in this directory. The second thumb is an example of what the text file looks like.



CEJ, thanks for the help! I'll start saving the history now.
Just one question...this file will be updated everytime i use photoshop for editions or more files will be created like EditHistory1, EditHistory2, etc?
08/23/2009 04:26:36 PM · #13
Same file keeps getting appended to. You can change the file for each picture you edit - like a separate one for challenge entries or whatever. But I use the same one and have for the past few months and as you can see it is only 320kb big. When you read the whole text file you can clearly identify which picture the edits apply to.

Example (copied right out of my text file, BOLD added by me):

2009-07-05 08:15:16 Photoshop launched
Reset Brushes of current application
Reset Tool Presets of current application
2009-07-05 08:15:32 File IMG_5820 copy.CR2 opened
Open
Macintosh HD:Users:christopherjacobsen:Pictures:Challenges:above2:IMG_5820 copy.CR2
As: Camera Raw
Model: âCanon EOS 40Dâ
Settings: Image Settings
Space: Adobe RGB (1998)
Depth: 8 Bits/channel
Scale: 1
Resolution: 240
Resolution Unit: Pixels/inch
Output Sharpen For: None
Crop
Crop
To: rectangle
Top: 0.588 inches
Left: 1.85 inches
Bottom: 8.05 inches
Right: 11.738 inches
Angle: 0°
Target Width: 0 pixels
Target Height: 0 pixels
Target Resolution: 0 per inch
2009-07-05 08:16:25 File IMG_5820 copy.CR2 closed

If you use Adobe Camera RAW for RAW images, then when a RAW image is open in ACR, from the menu bar, Photoshop->Camera Raw Preferences. In the top section - Save Image Settings In: Sidecar '.xmp' files. What this does is save the ACR settings in a small file that is used every time you subsequently open that RAW file so if you need to know what you did in RAW, open the RAW file again and all the settings will be as you adjusted them for the file. This is done for each image separately. So if you open 10 images and adjust them you will have 10 .xmp files - one for each image.



Message edited by author 2009-08-23 16:35:44.
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