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07/17/2009 11:48:14 AM · #1 |
After reading the article on blind photographers, and seeing some of their awesome work regardless of their handicap, I started wondering how many people here are colorblind?
Just for those who don't know, colorblindness is a little bit of a misnomer. You don't just see in black and white (although that is a very rare type of colorblindness) the majority of people who are colorblind just see some particular colors the same as others.
Here is a website that can help you understand what certain types of colorblindness makes a person see the world like //www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/2.html
So how do other colorblind people work around their little handicap (which is far far smaller than anything that the blind photographers have to work around). I myself will do autolevels, have my wife help me, or simply put it in black and white. |
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07/17/2009 12:00:07 PM · #2 |
Yeah I'm color blind. Sucks for some reasons but I dont "see" it as a handicap because I don't know any different. Although I have convinced myself that I might have learned my colors wrong :-/
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07/17/2009 12:07:33 PM · #3 |
I have trouble seeing reds, for example -->  ,
from the Ansel Adams II challenge. I had no idea this was "pink"! :-} |
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07/17/2009 12:21:39 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I have trouble seeing reds, for example --> ,
from the Ansel Adams II challenge. I had no idea this was "pink"! :-} |
Totally a b&w from my perspective as well.
@ Fetor: I don't really notice it until people speak up about the odd nature of some of the colors in my pictures. From our perspective you are right, we don't know any better, but I just wonder what the world would really be like. The biggest example of that is the fact that stop signs, when in a grove of darker leafed trees, are hard to see for me. People say you can't possibly miss the brilliant red of the stop sign. Oh yes I can. I have yet to run a stop sign for the record however I have stopped at green lights in Fargo ND where they haven't upgraded all their lights to led (which makes the green lights a much darker green) and they are turned 90 degrees on their side. |
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07/17/2009 12:50:38 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I have trouble seeing reds, for example --> ,
from the Ansel Adams II challenge. I had no idea this was "pink"! :-} |
I guess I do too. That looks like b&w to me. I guess that would explain the baffling comments I get sometimes about color cast. |
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07/17/2009 01:03:15 PM · #6 |
| To me, that shot is decided pink. So if you see it as B&W, I'm guessing you're a bit red/green colorblind! |
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07/17/2009 01:07:56 PM · #7 |
| I am colorblind too. I posted a pic here once and someone was nice enough to point out the fact it was really blue. I had no idea. Usually I just have my wife do color correctons or make all my shots b+w. |
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07/17/2009 01:08:22 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
To me, that shot is decided pink. So if you see it as B&W, I'm guessing you're a bit red/green colorblind! |
it looks like sepia to me:/ |
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07/17/2009 02:12:22 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by IAmMoen:
So how do other colorblind people work around their little handicap (which is far far smaller than anything that the blind photographers have to work around). I myself will do autolevels, have my wife help me, or simply put it in black and white. |
 Yup -- it can be a problem ... I didn't notice the pink cast to this early entry. 
I "compensate" mainly by using the Photoshop Info Window to check the values of various colors in the picture, using CMYK mode. I've worked in the printing industry for a long time, and used PS for scanning and adjusting photos before digital cameras were commonly available, so I learned to interpret the colors by reading those numbers rather than relying on what in those days were inaccurate and uncalibrated monitors.
I find the biggest problem to be picking up the red component of some mixed colors, such as telling the difference between greens and browns, blues and purples, light blue and lavender, etc. |
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07/17/2009 02:15:45 PM · #10 |
I am both red/green and blue/yellow color blind and it is a pain. I fail all the "dot" tests for colors.
Without my wife all my adjusted images would have a funny cast to them. She is always pointing out some color that could be brought out with manipulation or how colors complement one another....another league altogether for me.
But Hey, it is a great excuse for not doing any better :) |
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07/17/2009 02:18:29 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by rlewis:
... I fail all the "dot" tests for colors. ... |
Yep. Me too. :-/ |
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07/17/2009 02:31:17 PM · #12 |
| FWIW, it is estimated that about 10% of males have some variety of color-blindness; for women the number is more like one in a thousand. |
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07/17/2009 02:45:59 PM · #13 |
This is quite interesting--
So for those of you who have the red-green problem, are red flowers uglier, in your opinion, than blue or yellow flowers? In the simulation, the red flowers turned kind of an ugly green. Part of me thinks that I'm thinking they're ugly because I'm not used to it, and it doesn't look right to me. But part of me thinks that even if I was used to it, that they wouldn't be as appealing as yellow or blue. Do you have an opinion? It's actually quite fascinating...
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07/17/2009 02:53:07 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
This is quite interesting--
So for those of you who have the red-green problem, are red flowers uglier, in your opinion, than blue or yellow flowers? In the simulation, the red flowers turned kind of an ugly green. Part of me thinks that I'm thinking they're ugly because I'm not used to it, and it doesn't look right to me. But part of me thinks that even if I was used to it, that they wouldn't be as appealing as yellow or blue. Do you have an opinion? It's actually quite fascinating... |
Red just doesn't jump out for me like it must for the non-color blind. In the on-going flower challenge there is a red flower in a green background. I may have voted it lower than others would because the contrast just wasn't there for me. Blue is a much more vibrant color for me....stop signs should be blue.
My wife will point out red in a scene or in an image I have captured and I have trouble seeing it even when pointed out to me. |
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07/17/2009 03:01:47 PM · #15 |
I don't think I have a strong preference in flowers (you can see a fair sampling here) or anything else for any particular color, but I may try to adjust reds so they are "redder" than captured, and make them more distinct from the other colors.
Feel free to browse that gallery (or any of mine) and point out any pictures where the colors seem odd or "off" to you. I think most of the time I seem to come pretty close to a natural look; I must admit the occasional "nice colors" comment makes me smile ... :-) |
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07/17/2009 03:09:11 PM · #16 |
I am color blind to blues and greens.
I usually ask my wife to look at post edit photos to see if there's anything wonky going on with colors. Most of the time, she even tells me.
When I don't get the chance to ask, I get stuff like kool-aid seas.
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07/17/2009 03:30:05 PM · #17 |
That's cool that you were reading about blind photogs--my roommate just shot a documentary on a few of 'em (on a D90, no less!):
Check it out! |
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07/17/2009 03:38:21 PM · #18 |
| Please note the term "Color Blind" is not Politically correct. The appropriate term is "Grey scale visually referenced persons". ;-) |
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07/17/2009 03:45:47 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
Please note the term "Color Blind" is not Politically correct. The appropriate term is "Grey scale visually referenced persons". ;-) |
I get your point, but that's not quite right either -- most of us do very well with grayscale images.
How about "Spectrally-Shifted"? |
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07/17/2009 03:47:07 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Please note the term "Color Blind" is not Politically correct. The appropriate term is "Grey scale visually referenced persons". ;-) |
I get your point, but that's not quite right either -- most of us do very well with grayscale images.
How about "Spectrally-Shifted"? |
Wow, that sounds more complex!! I like it! |
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07/17/2009 03:55:01 PM · #21 |
| For some reason I have trouble with dark-blue and black socks. My wife can pick the difference easily. |
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07/17/2009 04:41:28 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
For some reason I have trouble with dark-blue and black socks. My wife can pick the difference easily. |
This will be more of a problem if you have incandescent lamps where you are dressing -- their yellowish light is completely absorbed by the blue socks, rendering them visually black. Try looking at the same mis-matched pair under fluorescent or daylight lighting conditions and see if the difference is more apparent.
PS: be sure to take account of the color of the store lighting when shopping -- I've been amazed before when something came out of the bag a different color than what went in.
Message edited by author 2009-07-17 16:43:03. |
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07/17/2009 04:45:00 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
For some reason I have trouble with dark-blue and black socks. My wife can pick the difference easily. |
This will be more of a problem if you have incandescent lamps where you are dressing -- their yellowish light is completely absorbed by the blue socks, rendering them visually black. Try looking at the same mis-matched pair under fluorescent or daylight lighting conditions and see if the difference is more apparent.
PS: be sure to take account of the color of the store lighting when shopping -- I've been amazed before when something came out of the bag a different color than what went in. |
You are exactly right and I've sorta learned to take them into the bathroom where there is window light. Still, somehow Jenn can tell anyway. I think it has to do with not having a Y chromosome... |
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07/17/2009 04:49:19 PM · #24 |
| My bathroom doesn't have a window, so I buy bulk-pack socks at Costco which are all the same color. ;-) |
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07/17/2009 04:56:19 PM · #25 |
| Well, after being married for 20 years, I've learned that there are only 6 colors for guys, anyway. taupe, periwinkle, chartreuse, maroon, aquamarine, none of these are real colors according to my husband. red, green, blue, yellow, black and white are the only colors that exist (and he's not even spectrally shifted.! |
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