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07/10/2009 01:17:55 PM · #26 |
Submitting resumes is an art onto intself, and the person vying for the job needs to know how to tailor the resume to met the requirements of the job being advertised.
I can assure you that I personally will not trudge through a 20 page document to determine if you meet the requirement of the position I am trying to fill. The onus is on you to convince me (in a succinct manner) that you are the ideal candidate for the job.
Have I ever written a resume, yes I have and each one was specific to the job I was applying for. Would I pay for one, not likely as there are countless examples available on the internet on the different types of resumes that can be submitted.
Good luck to you in your future endeavours.
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07/10/2009 01:24:58 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
That flies in the face of our resumes here. Mine is a whopping 20+ pages and it's not fluff. Special filters are used to run the resumes through to grab keywords. It's all because each project needs to be added individually to the resume. Mine gets longer every year. |
That sounds more like a documentation of your work history than a brief overview of your qualifications. Perhaps it is appropriate in some circumstances, but it is opposite everything I have ever learned about resume writing. |
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07/10/2009 01:38:21 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
That flies in the face of our resumes here. Mine is a whopping 20+ pages and it's not fluff. Special filters are used to run the resumes through to grab keywords. It's all because each project needs to be added individually to the resume. Mine gets longer every year. |
That sounds more like a documentation of your work history than a brief overview of your qualifications. Perhaps it is appropriate in some circumstances, but it is opposite everything I have ever learned about resume writing. |
I would hit the delete button as soon as I saw the page count.
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07/10/2009 01:38:47 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I've spent so many years in school and working and living and learning in general. Why waste all of that experience by having a third party write about me and create, at best, second hand information?
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Because most people are crap writers.
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see above example for brilliant, succinct writing like you could see on YOUR resume for a mere $999. |
Do you have a deluxe package that comes with the job offer?
Message edited by author 2009-07-10 13:39:16.
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07/10/2009 03:55:16 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
I just don't see how and who on earth would ever pay that. I know I would never pay you that much to right 1 MAYBE 2 pieces of paper.
If you reading this respond with a yes or no,
would you pay someone roughly $300USD to write you a 1 page resume? |
I wouldn't pay anyone $385 to take my engagement photos either. |
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07/10/2009 04:36:25 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
I just don't see how and who on earth would ever pay that. I know I would never pay you that much to right 1 MAYBE 2 pieces of paper.
If you reading this respond with a yes or no,
would you pay someone roughly $300USD to write you a 1 page resume? |
I wouldn't pay anyone $385 to take my engagement photos either. |
touche.
i wouldn't pay anyone hundreds of dollars to take pictures of my kids, because i can do it myself.
i wouldn't pay anyone to write my resume for the same reason. :P
BUT, there are people who can't/won't on both of those, so they will pay others to do it.
Message edited by author 2009-07-10 16:37:17. |
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07/10/2009 04:47:49 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
That flies in the face of our resumes here. Mine is a whopping 20+ pages and it's not fluff. Special filters are used to run the resumes through to grab keywords. It's all because each project needs to be added individually to the resume. Mine gets longer every year. |
That sounds more like a documentation of your work history than a brief overview of your qualifications. Perhaps it is appropriate in some circumstances, but it is opposite everything I have ever learned about resume writing. |
Definitely. I've been taught shorter the better. However, there are many situations where you want to show it all. Especially if the person hiring wants to see a trend of increasing responsibility over time. Job titles don't tell much, it's what you did on the job that means more. When working for a consulting company, your responsibilities can change often.
Aligning the resume with the job being applied for is something else I've been taught, but once you get to 20+ years of experience (in IT), with experience all over the map, it's hard to do that without leaving gaps in time in the resume. Gaps are bad. |
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07/10/2009 05:05:41 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Aligning the resume with the job being applied for is something else I've been taught, but once you get to 20+ years of experience (in IT), with experience all over the map, it's hard to do that without leaving gaps in time in the resume. Gaps are bad. |
Agree, and I have to leave things out of my own resume at times, but there has got to be a balance between the overview that a resume is supposed to be and a full accounting of one's experience. Even in a complex IT job, most hiring managers and HR people are not going to read through a 20 page tome on every applicant. They want to see a easily scanned list that tells them if they should look at you further. I think this is where tailoring the resume to the job comes in.
Message edited by author 2009-07-10 17:06:29. |
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07/10/2009 05:15:46 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Aligning the resume with the job being applied for is something else I've been taught, but once you get to 20+ years of experience (in IT), with experience all over the map, it's hard to do that without leaving gaps in time in the resume. Gaps are bad. |
Agree, and I have to leave things out of my own resume at times, but there has got to be a balance between the overview that a resume is supposed to be and a full accounting of one's experience. Even in a complex IT job, most hiring managers and HR people are not going to read through a 20 page tome on every applicant. They want to see a easily scanned list that tells them if they should look at you further. I think this is where tailoring the resume to the job comes in. |
No, they're not going to read the whole thing. Often times, they request a skill matrix in addition to the resume. This maps the required skills to particular entries on the resume. Also, a summary of skills should be provided in the resume, preferably at the beginning so the recruiter doesn't have to sift through the tome. |
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07/10/2009 05:16:56 PM · #35 |
This thread is like a blast from the past. I'm so glad I'm a freelancer. I hated the whole resume routine and was never comfortable exaggerating job experiences and hoping that my B.S. looked better on paper than someone else's B.S.
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07/10/2009 07:57:53 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by yanko:
This thread is like a blast from the past. I'm so glad I'm a freelancer. I hated the whole resume routine and was never comfortable exaggerating job experiences and hoping that my B.S. looked better on paper than someone else's B.S. |
Offering a blow job at the interview is always a good strategy.
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07/10/2009 08:59:26 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Offering a blow job at the interview is always a good strategy. |
I tried it once. She turned me down but offered me the job anyway. She thought I was a real go getter. |
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07/10/2009 10:48:42 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
I just don't see how and who on earth would ever pay that. I know I would never pay you that much to right 1 MAYBE 2 pieces of paper.
If you reading this respond with a yes or no,
would you pay someone roughly $300USD to write you a 1 page resume? |
I wouldn't pay anyone $385 to take my engagement photos either. |
You would if you wanted to remember it but I understand where your coming from. BTW that cheap for my area. People here pay over $1000 |
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07/10/2009 10:50:18 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by yanko:
This thread is like a blast from the past. I'm so glad I'm a freelancer. I hated the whole resume routine and was never comfortable exaggerating job experiences and hoping that my B.S. looked better on paper than someone else's B.S. |
Only reason I needed to redo my resume was because I got a job offer back into the IT world and they just wanted an updated version. I had no intentions of taking it but I couldn't resist the $$$$ |
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