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06/11/2009 09:43:55 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
I love google chrome for what it matters. Google Chrome runs better on W7 than IE8 does. |
And it has "chrome" in the name, so you know it has to be good ;~) |
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06/11/2009 09:54:07 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
Not to get this off topic, but Windows 7 is Vista put on a diet and re-packaged... |
Not be argumentative... well, OK, to be argumentative, have you been using it? Because I have, exclusively, on my main home PC, since May 6, and it is most decidedly NOT Vista Lite. I can honestly say that I have not used an OS with the stability and responsiveness of this one, especially given the complexity of it; it is still a do-it-all OS, not a "core functions" OS like Linux. |
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06/11/2009 10:00:17 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
Originally posted by JH:
The shrink-wrapped Win7 that you can pick off the shelf barely makes a dent in MS revenues. |
I just think that people will stop using it all together. Then they will stop using other MS products. But maybe you are right. Maybe OS doesn't matter.
I love google chrome for what it matters. Google Chrome runs better on W7 than IE8 does. |
I think there is a divergence happening. For example, 10 years ago I'd have used my Windows-based PC for games, internet, email, work applications, and photos. Now I use my (OSX) iMac for photos, media, and internet, I use my (WinXP) Thinkpad for work-related stuff (dev and office apps), I use my (OSX) iPod Touch for quick email and internet and some games, and I use my Wii, Playstation or DS Lite for games.
Not to mention the operating system that runs inside my phone, or my eeePC, and things like the upcoming Google Android OS. If there wasn't room for other OS's on diverging devices, then the likes of Google and Apple wouldn't be investing in their development.
The OS has become less important to me. If the device works and I get whatever task I need to get done in a quick and easy way (preferably without having to fiddle with settings, updates, or anti-virus software) then I'm happy.
Regarding browser. I'm running Firefox on the (OSX) Mac, Safari on the iPod Touch, and Chrome on the (WinXP) Thinkpad. Where's my loyalty? :)
Message edited by author 2009-06-11 22:01:02. |
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06/11/2009 10:22:21 PM · #29 |
| I tried the IE8 Beta (running XP on my laptop) had problems with it locking up, although I honestly don't know if it was IE8 causing the problems. It turned out I had a nasty bit of Malware hidden deep inside the machine. Found it by chance. We use a wild amount of security for work. I wanted to be able to use my laptop for work so I had to have all the protocals and lord knows what else installed. The IT guy sat down and started going through things and noticed a couple of things running that he didn't recognize. He did some research and found out it was adware- ran a few scans through it with the same results I had- clean. So he reformatted the hard drive- luckily I had backed up everything important before I gave it to him. Did a nice clean install. I haven't had a single lock up or problem with IE8 since. In fact I'd say it runs considerably faster than IE7 on my desktop- and the desktop has a much better processor (same internet connection). |
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06/11/2009 11:24:13 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
Not to get this off topic, but Windows 7 is Vista put on a diet and re-packaged... |
Not be argumentative... well, OK, to be argumentative, have you been using it? Because I have, exclusively, on my main home PC, since May 6, and it is most decidedly NOT Vista Lite. I can honestly say that I have not used an OS with the stability and responsiveness of this one, especially given the complexity of it; it is still a do-it-all OS, not a "core functions" OS like Linux. |
I used Vista since it came out (Beta tested) and now I am on Windows 7 and I see little or no difference (I love Vista BTW) In fact Vista never once crashed for me, but 7 has a few times already. It also won't run the web cam that I used under Vista and is giving me fits with a couple of my other software apps. It is more responsive overall, but the facts are it is a "lightened Vista Kernel".
It won't stop me from using 7, it is a better OS than Vista but to say that it is new is a long shot. Once it is out of Beta and into peoples homes and it crashes and Microsoft releases the first service pack it will be a great OS. It just won't entice people to leave XP.
IE8 stinks. |
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06/11/2009 11:33:04 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
It won't stop me from using 7, it is a better OS than Vista but to say that it is new is a long shot. Once it is out of Beta and into peoples homes and it crashes and Microsoft releases the first service pack it will be a great OS. It just won't entice people to leave XP.
IE8 stinks. |
I guess that what it is for me.....I'll let the pioneers iron out all the problems, and then just run the systems once they're really well sorted.
I have zero problems with my XP box, I use Office/Outlook 2003, IE6, and McAffee anti-virus that my wife got from the state.....which is the quickest, cleanest, most unobtrusive thing I have ever seen. Nothing gets past it and it so runs in the background without giving us any fits.
I know I'll have to change once you can't get software for this old sh*t any more, but it serves me very well now.
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06/12/2009 01:33:02 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
Not to get this off topic, but Windows 7 is Vista put on a diet and re-packaged... |
Not be argumentative... well, OK, to be argumentative, have you been using it? Because I have, exclusively, on my main home PC, since May 6, and it is most decidedly NOT Vista Lite. I can honestly say that I have not used an OS with the stability and responsiveness of this one, especially given the complexity of it; it is still a do-it-all OS, not a "core functions" OS like Linux. |
I side with Kirbic on this one. Smaller Footprint, better memory use, faster execution. It is tighter code. Permissions and such are still pretty tight... but people biatch when they get viruses and people biatch when they have to run their installs as Admins, so what are you to do.
Like Jason I have run the Vista from the Longhorn Beta and have run Win7 from it's first beta...I mess around around the hood of these things and note there is a noticable difference in administration and performance. I have 3 Win7 Ultimate Machines running and 3 Vista Ultimate at home, the Vista Machines will go Win7 as soon as it is RTM as Win7 plays a little better with Server 2008 (even with the patches to Vista).
BTW: Corporate America will go to Win7 a lot faster than many think. We get it first, been testing it on the platforms we sell, and yes will be rolling it out in the very near future. Strange devices work hella better with Win7.
Message edited by author 2009-06-12 01:39:23. |
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06/12/2009 01:39:37 AM · #33 |
| By the way, *I* tried Chrome so I could tell my neighbor about it. Nice tool, but doesn't function well with a couple of sites - onexposure.com for example. I didn't care for the tab at the top for some reason, but I'm sure I could have gotten used to that. Went back to good ol' IE for now, though. |
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06/12/2009 05:36:43 AM · #34 |
| I'm always reluctant to take on big MS upgrades but I've now upgraded my home pc, work pc and two laptops (all on XP) to IE8 and it is a great improvement over IE7. I ran some basic speed tests and IE8 is much faster. Having said that I still prefer firefox! I also tried chrome a while ago and it was pretty bad! |
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06/12/2009 05:50:41 AM · #35 |
| Can't believe no one here is rocking Firefox. IE and chrome are both not even in the same league as firefox when it comes to convenience and speed. IE is a dying browser and chrome is too young, dump both of them and use firefox. |
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06/12/2009 09:30:17 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by bradshaw:
Can't believe no one here is rocking Firefox. IE and chrome are both not even in the same league as firefox when it comes to convenience and speed. IE is a dying browser and chrome is too young, dump both of them and use firefox. |
Sorry, I am just getting to grips with Chrome.... long time coming for me to rid myself of IE. Maybe I can grow up with Chrome without complicating my already complicated world. Firefox get excellent reviews, but Chrome is for me the challenge, for now. |
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06/12/2009 11:18:05 AM · #37 |
| Chrome smokes Firefox in the speed dept. |
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06/12/2009 11:28:50 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
Chrome smokes Firefox in the speed dept. |
I tried Firefox a while back and found it slower than IE in my machine.
Didn't really like its style muchj.
Purely subjective.....
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06/12/2009 11:36:34 AM · #39 |
Our IT department consider it is best (safer) to stay with IE 7.
I use firefox with mouse gestures and cooliris add-ons installed. Very ergonomic. |
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06/12/2009 01:13:22 PM · #40 |
Use Firefox.
I also use Chrome, but I *think* Firefox is more secure.
Message edited by author 2009-06-12 13:15:59. |
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06/12/2009 01:49:10 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by awpollard:
Strange devices work hella better with Win7. |
By 'strange devices', do you mean a recent PC with 4Gb ram? - Because I can't think of any other devices that'll work better with Win7 (e.g. netbooks, mobile devices etc.)
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06/12/2009 02:10:20 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by flavioalima:
Use Firefox.
I also use Chrome, but I *think* Firefox is more secure. |
You might be right about that. I don't really surf sites that pose a threat so my system is pretty safe. |
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06/12/2009 02:10:50 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
Chrome smokes Firefox in the speed dept. |
I tried Firefox a while back and found it slower than IE in my machine.
Didn't really like its style muchj.
Purely subjective..... |
Ya, once you get used to one format it is super hard to switch. |
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06/12/2009 02:17:05 PM · #44 |
| I REALLY like the adblocker and scriptblocker plugins for Firefox (not to mention the cooliris and weather puppies, too) |
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06/15/2009 09:21:54 PM · #45 |
I've been trying out Safari 4 on the iMac, and it's really fast. It uses the same engine as Chrome.
Downloadable for PC as well: //www.apple.com/safari/download/ |
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06/15/2009 09:37:19 PM · #46 |
I'm in love with the fox. If some of the newer alternates were compatible with FF extensions, I might be tempted to give them a try. I have FF locked down as secure as is reasonable without using wire cutters, and customized to my liking.
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06/18/2009 04:01:49 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
...... I don't really surf sites that pose a threat so my system is pretty safe. |
I assume you mean "adult" sites. About eight months ago I was sitting in an airport with my laptop. The guy sitting next to me looks over while my anti-virus is running and notices its found five "items" he laughs and says- "Oh you must surf alot of porn." (I had no idea who this man was). I told him "Never do. Much more dangerous stuff, county appraisers and recorders." Those really are some of the most infected sites around. |
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11/03/2009 11:24:25 AM · #48 |
| For whatever reason, I ended up with IE8 on my desktop. Pictures look HORRIBLE. Here, at flickr, just about anywhere. WTFO? Fuzzy and icky, like they're pictures of pictures or something. Text looks crisp (even if the fonts are wonky) but pictures? ICK! So I installed Firefox, which works OK, but I do kinda wanna know what the deal is with IE8. Is it incompatible with my graphics card? With DPC and flickr? Thoughts? |
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11/03/2009 11:51:59 AM · #49 |
| Are you zoomed? Check the status bar (lower right of the screen) and make sure it says 100%. |
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11/03/2009 12:22:36 PM · #50 |
| You, sir, are a genius. It was indeed zoomed to 125% but I have no idea when or where that got set. With it set back to 100%, pictures look normal again. But I think I'll keep playing with Firefox for awhile anyway. :-) |
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