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05/15/2009 11:17:24 AM · #1 |
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05/15/2009 11:21:47 AM · #2 |
This is really stupid when it comes to top of the line product like this,
Do they expect pros to turn on their cameras and use their backups till they finish oil cleaning?
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05/15/2009 11:28:25 AM · #3 |
What's it matter.... The people who bought mk3's have had to send it back several times already, so chances are the body is already with Canon. I guess now it can apparently focus they can see the oil :-)
If I need a body like that for income purposes I would have bought a D3 already. |
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05/15/2009 11:33:39 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by robs:
If I need a body like that for income purposes I would have bought a D3 already. |
This made me think just about the same :) I love my 20D, and can't imaging a day to come when I would part with it :( Hat to move to a Nikon, but this really should make me ask my self the same question, If I am to upgrade Ni Or Ca :) the ultimate question,
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05/15/2009 02:24:39 PM · #5 |
Not to apear like I'm being 'funny' or anything but I think the 1Ds mkII was the best camera Canon ever made.
I thought about trading for a '1DmkIII' once but it was just a bad dream.
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05/15/2009 04:10:08 PM · #6 |
It always amazes me that people talk so much crap about this camera. I'd happily let any of the previous posters to come use my camera for a weekend and then allow me to take photos while they eat their words. I've made more money with my '1DMKIII' than any camera I've ever owned. MAK while the 1DsMKII is a great camera, I still wouldn't trade my '1DMKIII' for another one. Together they make an amazing combination.
Matt |
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05/15/2009 04:43:51 PM · #7 |
Haven't seen this problem myself - however I do agree that the 1D mk3 series has been a lot of trouble for Canon since day one - I will be sending mine off as a matter of course so that when the mk4 comes out I can kick up a stink and see what they will offer me as a decent part-ex for all the hassle caused. Hopefully they have a nice fat problem book so when designing the mk4 they can avoid all the problems they have had with the 3 series..
Saying that I love my mk3, just going through some wedding shots from the weekend and even in a darkened church at iso 2000 the shots are perfectly usable. Even a few at 3200 won't be a problem when printed.
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05/15/2009 05:04:43 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by MattO:
It always amazes me that people talk so much crap about this camera. I'd happily let any of the previous posters to come use my camera for a weekend and then allow me to take photos while they eat their words. I've made more money with my '1DMKIII' than any camera I've ever owned. MAK while the 1DsMKII is a great camera, I still wouldn't trade my '1DMKIII' for another one. Together they make an amazing combination.
Matt |
People will talk crap about everything. It doesn't matter if it is the best available, there's also some complaint like "it should cost less." I think it makes perfect sense that there are more strange random "service" issues with increasingly complex cameras. Think about it, there are an IMMENSE amount of contingency plans required now for such complex cameras as compared to cameras of yesteryear. So long as consumers demand the bleeding edge, they will experience the unfortunate downsides of bleeding edge technologies. |
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05/15/2009 05:11:41 PM · #9 |
How come this has only surfaced just now? I noticed this about a year ago. Nothing that a quick wipe with my sleeve didn't fix.
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05/15/2009 05:23:41 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
People will talk crap about everything. |
Your right... I don't own the camera so don't apparently have a right to an opinion. Perfectly acceptable for a camera that cost that much to have multiple issues & recalls. I don't see the matching issues with an equally complex camera in the D3, so must be out of the loop. |
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05/15/2009 05:26:30 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by MattO:
It always amazes me that people talk so much crap about this camera. I'd happily let any of the previous posters to come use my camera for a weekend and then allow me to take photos while they eat their words. I've made more money with my '1DMKIII' than any camera I've ever owned. MAK while the 1DsMKII is a great camera, I still wouldn't trade my '1DMKIII' for another one. Together they make an amazing combination.
Matt |
Matt, I am sure you making money doesn't depend totally on this camera, If I gave you my 20D, I am sure you still would kickA$$, this is not the point,
The point is buying a Ferrari, to be called over and over because the center lock is not working, the trunk is not opening, it has nothing to do with the speed, engine, transition, but still ..
I don't mind you taking my picture eating my words for borrowing your camera for a weekend :)
Cheers buddy
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05/15/2009 05:30:49 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by robs:
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
People will talk crap about everything. |
Your right... I don't own the camera so don't apparently have a right to an opinion. Perfectly acceptable for a camera that cost that much to have multiple issues & recalls. I don't see the matching issues with an equally complex camera in the D3, so must be out of the loop. |
No, I'm sorry that what I said was taken to mean that you have no right to an opnion. I think you have your right to your displeasures, and that they are are an unforunate result of bleeding edge technology. I also think that regardless, people will find a problem if they really want to. Armchair photography, if you will. I didn't mean to single you out. I meant it more as a "my camera only has 6 FPS, it should have 20!" sort of thing. People always complain, no matter what. This is a real issue and a result of of what was a minor oversight (really, strictly reading it's wording, the oiling must be excessive for the problem to even develop in the first place. Is this company BS to cover? Perhaps. But people would be complaining about the camera even if it were perfect when it came out.
Message edited by author 2009-05-15 17:31:57. |
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05/15/2009 05:42:02 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
I also think that regardless, people will find a problem if they really want to. Armchair photography, if you will. |
It's a real problem, although not one that's really difficult to deal with.  . This is a heavy crop of a what is already a snapshot anyway.
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05/15/2009 05:49:33 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
I meant it more as a "my camera only has 6 FPS, it should have 20!" sort of thing. |
<== See the camera under my profile... I am not on the bleeding edge here - hell I cannot even see it from here :-) My point is that the MK3 has had a disproportionally large amount of bugs compared to similar cameras... and Canon was dragged to admitting there was a focus issue at all.
I agree that any of the current crop are amazing cameras compared to just a few years ago and they are more computer then camera now days. but I would not touch a MK3 if I needed that functionality... I would swap to the D3 or if the MK2N had what I wanted maybe there but I would be VERY unhappy about laying out that sort of $ for that body. |
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05/15/2009 06:07:23 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Mr_Pants:
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
I also think that regardless, people will find a problem if they really want to. Armchair photography, if you will. |
It's a real problem, although not one that's really difficult to deal with. . This is a heavy crop of a what is already a snapshot anyway. |
I assumed that hole in the picture was just a local shooting at him . .
:- ) |
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05/15/2009 06:12:25 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Jedusi:
Originally posted by Mr_Pants:
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
I also think that regardless, people will find a problem if they really want to. Armchair photography, if you will. |
It's a real problem, although not one that's really difficult to deal with. . This is a heavy crop of a what is already a snapshot anyway. |
I assumed that hole in the picture was just a local shooting at him . .
:- ) |
Strangely enough, the picture immediately before this one had the sun in about the same place as the blob is. I actually thought for a moment that I'd burnt a hole in my sensor by pointing it at the sun. This was in the Kuwaiti Desert, after all, and I'd had to go two days without alcohol.
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05/15/2009 06:20:57 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by robs:
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
People will talk crap about everything. |
Your right... I don't own the camera so don't apparently have a right to an opinion. Perfectly acceptable for a camera that cost that much to have multiple issues & recalls. I don't see the matching issues with an equally complex camera in the D3, so must be out of the loop. |
Take a walk over to Fredmiranda's Nikon mount SLR and search D3 and D3x. Take a stroll over to Sportshooter.com and look through there. Each camera has had its own issues, with AF, black frames, all sorts of issues. Cameras are complex beasts made with human hands. Errors and problems are going to occur. Nothing is full proof. Our other sports photographer shoots with a D3 and has had it back to Nikon 3 times in the year since he bought it. Mine has been to Canon once(for the latest recall) was not included in the prior ones and I purchased it in November of 2007. It does not have an issue with oil at this time. My point is simple. The '1DMKIII' is an amazing camera, yes there are ones with issues, show me a camera that has been made that hasn't had some issues and I'll buy 10 of them. The D3 is an amazing camera. When you get your new D3 go find a 300F2.8VR, a 400F2.8VR, and some of the other Nikon glass, then compare those prices and availability to the Canon equals. The price difference is astounding. that is why I am able to shoot with a 300F2.8IS and the Nikon shooter sticks with a 70-200VR and sometimes uses his 1.4TC. To each his own. However internet hysteria by people who don't even own or use the camera isn't going to do anyone any good.
Matt
Message edited by author 2009-05-15 21:15:29. |
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05/15/2009 08:45:04 PM · #18 |
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