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 03/21/2009 05:04:28 AM · #1
Just like to get some feedback as well. I understand it's not everyone's bag.
But if you look at the comments I received on my entry it really shows an interesting mix of extremes between "Like It" and "Not Like It" comments.
On the whole though most comments were positive and outnumbered the less enthusiastic one's.
The final score though suggests that most voters who only voted without commenting did not like it it so much.
It is not a true hdr tonemapped image by the way. It was from a single jpeg converted to b&w and then processed with photomatix as a Pseudo hdr.

Thanks for looking
Fred :)
Ps. It's unfortunately not my car otherwise `I would have parked it somewhere with a much nicer backdrop.

Message edited by author 2009-03-21 05:09:53.
 03/21/2009 05:21:15 AM · #2
Hello Fred. I gave it a 3, and I feel a little bad about it now that you've posted this.

My problem was indeed the HDR (or pseudo HDR) processing, which I think steals away from the Caddy all that is great about 1950s American automobiles (the last decade in which they actually made any great cars ΓΆ€“ with the possible exception of the 65-67 Mustangs, which are probably only pseudo great cars come to think about it). What I mean about the processing is that it seems to be too realistic and not impressionistic enough. Fidelity at the expense of soul. Detail at the expense of essence. Too much information.

I can best illustrate what I mean by doing this, or this, or this.

In this case, with this era of the icons of American automobile design, less turns out to be more.
03/21/2009 05:40:15 AM · #3
Didnt you already post a thread asking for comments on this image?
 03/21/2009 05:55:45 AM · #4
Originally posted by ubique:
Hello Fred. I gave it a 3, and I feel a little bad about it now that you've posted this.

My problem was indeed the HDR (or pseudo HDR) processing, which I think steals away from the Caddy all that is great about 1950s American automobiles (the last decade in which they actually made any great cars ΓΆ€“ with the possible exception of the 65-67 Mustangs, which are probably only pseudo great cars come to think about it). What I mean about the processing is that it seems to be too realistic and not impressionistic enough. Fidelity at the expense of soul. Detail at the expense of essence. Too much information.

I can best illustrate what I mean by doing this, or this, or this.

In this case, with this era of the icons of American automobile design, less turns out to be more.


Hi Paul. No need to feel bad at all. In fact not my intention to try and make anyone bad at all. I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea. You were honest. I also feel my entry is far from perfect. Lot's that could improve it, especially the background. Hey..those are damm fine images you gave the links to. I am impressed by them.
Regards
Fred

Message edited by author 2009-03-21 06:16:44.
 03/21/2009 06:01:21 AM · #5
Originally posted by Simms:
Didnt you already post a thread asking for comments on this image?


Heck..you know...me bad...must be old age starting to affect me.("scratches bald head") Would you believe that I actually completely and utterly forgot all about that thread.
Just searched for it and found it...(Slaps forehead in embarresment ")
QUOTE" Strangest scoreline I have ever had. So many low scores. Most disappointing. Strange thing are the many mostly complimentary comments on the whole.
I reckon I should have finished just over 6.0000"UNQUOTE

Ps.Didn't get any feedback in that post by the way, (just 1 person gave feedback) as it sorta got lost in a the much larger thread "Hidden Gem's Score Gripes" in which I had posted. So hopefully will get a bit of feedback now in it's own thread. Mind you, I am not griping about the score in this thread. I also feel my entry was far from perfect, especially the background, but it was the only one I had to enter that I still had on file from some time ago and the only one that would fit the challenge requirements. Just wanted to point to the interesting mix of extreme opposites in the comments.
And also, I am just a lonely,bored old fart with nothing much to say, looking for some online conversation and attention I guess.

Message edited by author 2009-03-21 06:36:08.
 03/21/2009 07:03:40 AM · #6
Originally posted by ThingFish:
I am just a lonely,bored old fart with nothing much to say, looking for some online conversation and attention I guess.


Oh really? Wanna go fishing? LOL.

Your caddie looked more like a graphic than a photograph to me, but..... I did give it a 6.
As with many photos I don't really understand I was unable to come up with a comment.
 03/21/2009 07:55:37 AM · #7
Originally posted by ubique:
Hello Fred. I gave it a 3, and I feel a little bad about it now that you've posted this.

My problem was indeed the HDR (or pseudo HDR) processing, which I think steals away from the Caddy all that is great about 1950s American automobiles (the last decade in which they actually made any great cars ΓΆ€“ with the possible exception of the 65-67 Mustangs, which are probably only pseudo great cars come to think about it). What I mean about the processing is that it seems to be too realistic and not impressionistic enough. Fidelity at the expense of soul. Detail at the expense of essence. Too much information.

I can best illustrate what I mean by doing this, or this, or this.

In this case, with this era of the icons of American automobile design, less turns out to be more.

I'm amused that you wouldn't have just linked Rachel HERE with her cars portfolio.......8>)



Message edited by author 2009-03-21 07:56:01.
 03/21/2009 08:40:43 AM · #8
I gave it a 6. I am a sucker for clean and simple photographs. I really like the angle you have chosen, and the processing is interesting in that all the detail in the background from the ground and trees is very busy, and therefore, it really draws my eye toward the big smooth white hood of the car.
 03/21/2009 08:43:34 AM · #9
Originally posted by FireBird:
Originally posted by ThingFish:
I am just a lonely,bored old fart with nothing much to say, looking for some online conversation and attention I guess.


Oh really? Wanna go fishing? LOL.

Your caddie looked more like a graphic than a photograph to me, but..... I did give it a 6.
As with many photos I don't really understand I was unable to come up with a comment.

Nothing much to understand about this photo. It's just what it is. A shot of an old Caddie, nothing more, nothing less. The result did come out looking more like a graphic indeed. Quite unintentional actually but I kinda liked that effect.
If I lived on the East Coast of the USA I would have loved to take you up on your fishing offer LOL It just so happens to be a favorite passtime of mine. Unfortunately I have been living in Holland for the past 9 years and I have had to adapt to fishing in the narrowish rivers and canals here. Great for fresh water snook.
Before I came and lived here I lived in South Africa on the coast and my passion was rock and surf angling, lagoon and estuary flyfishing and occasionally going deepsea fishing with friends on their boat. Now that was real fishing fun.
03/21/2009 08:45:27 AM · #10
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by ubique:
Hello Fred. I gave it a 3, and I feel a little bad about it now that you've posted this.

My problem was indeed the HDR (or pseudo HDR) processing, which I think steals away from the Caddy all that is great about 1950s American automobiles (the last decade in which they actually made any great cars ΓΆ€“ with the possible exception of the 65-67 Mustangs, which are probably only pseudo great cars come to think about it). What I mean about the processing is that it seems to be too realistic and not impressionistic enough. Fidelity at the expense of soul. Detail at the expense of essence. Too much information.

I can best illustrate what I mean by doing this, or this, or this.

In this case, with this era of the icons of American automobile design, less turns out to be more.

I'm amused that you wouldn't have just linked Rachel HERE with her cars portfolio.......8>)


Wow! Rachel's sure got a damm fine portfolio of automobile photo's
 03/21/2009 08:45:57 AM · #11
Originally posted by jeger:
I gave it a 6. I am a sucker for clean and simple photographs. I really like the angle you have chosen, and the processing is interesting in that all the detail in the background from the ground and trees is very busy, and therefore, it really draws my eye toward the big smooth white hood of the car.


Thanks Jeger. Glad you liked it.

Message edited by author 2009-03-21 08:48:59.
 03/21/2009 09:30:18 AM · #12
Originally posted by Simms:
Didnt you already post a thread asking for comments on this image?

Do you mean the same thread where he mentions not having the original image file?
 03/21/2009 10:22:21 AM · #13
03/21/2009 09:30:18 AM
Originally posted by glad2badad

Originally posted by Simms:
Didnt you already post a thread asking for comments on this image?

Do you mean the same thread where he mentions not having the original image file?

Yes he does as I already indicated in my answer to Simms. See answer again below. " HIDDEN GEM'S SCORE GRIPES" ( Why not ask me directly instead of Simms and referring to me in the 2nd person? I did start this thread after all. And my name is Fred not "he")

Heck..you know...me bad...must be old age starting to affect me.("scratches bald head") Would you believe that I actually completely and utterly forgot all about that thread.
Just searched for it and found it...(Slaps forehead in embarresment ")
QUOTE" Strangest scoreline I have ever had. So many low scores. Most disappointing. Strange thing are the many mostly complimentary comments on the whole.
I reckon I should have finished just over 6.0000"UNQUOTE
Didn't get any feedback in that post by the way, (just 1 person gave feedback) as it sorta got lost in a the much larger thread "Hidden Gem's Score Gripes" in which I had posted. So hopefully will get a bit of feedback now in it's own thread. Mind you, I am not griping about the score in this thread. I also feel my entry was far from perfect, especially the background, but it was the only one I had to enter that I still had on file from some time ago and the only one that would fit the challenge requirements. Just wanted to point to the interesting mix of extreme opposites in the comments.
And also, I am just a lonely,bored old fart with nothing much to say, looking for some online conversation and attention I guess.

Ps. Glad2badad: I received a request from SC very soon after I posted that asking me to provide proof and original exiff. I was able to satisfy SC. Someone must have taken it upon themselves to quickly report it to SC that I had mentioned that I did not have the original from the camera in my possession any longer.
Funny that that comment of mine grabbed your attention. My photo's certainly never have, as I just checked and noticed that I have never ever received a comment on any of my entries from you.

Message edited by author 2009-03-21 16:23:21.
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