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03/08/2009 12:33:29 AM · #1
In Advanced editing, we are able to "clone out incidental power lines, twigs, dust specks, stray hairs, and similar minor imperfections".

In the "100 Years Old" challenge, let's say there is a small plaque or other sign that is visible in the composition. Being at a historic place there are many such signs that give stats on the historic building or artifact.

Can these be cloned out?


03/08/2009 12:38:30 AM · #2
Kinda depends on how big of an element they are in the image I'd say. In principle, yes, if they are incidental enough.

R.
03/08/2009 03:45:41 AM · #3
I would consider that ok in most cases.
03/08/2009 03:53:13 AM · #4
Please submit a ticket (under the Help menu) to the SC with before/after versions of the image and a decription of your editing steps, and you will probably get a fairly reliable assessment of whether the object(s) you want to remove is/are "incidental" enough.

This rule is based on a subjective interpretation and it's quite unlikely that all SC members will agree on any particular image.
03/08/2009 06:20:47 AM · #5
I asked this question of SC recently and was given a pretty good guideline.

"If you can see it in the thumbnail view you can't clone it out"
03/08/2009 02:10:12 PM · #6
Originally posted by Lutchenko:

I asked this question of SC recently and was given a pretty good guideline.

"If you can see it in the thumbnail view you can't clone it out"
Oh wow - that's something I never thought about but it makes sense since anything that big would be a "major" element!!
03/08/2009 02:23:54 PM · #7
Originally posted by Jutilda:

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

I asked this question of SC recently and was given a pretty good guideline.

"If you can see it in the thumbnail view you can't clone it out"
Oh wow - that's something I never thought about but it makes sense since anything that big would be a "major" element!!


Ditto! That's a heck of a useful rule-of-thumb...

R.
03/08/2009 04:07:44 PM · #8
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

That's a heck of a useful rule-of-thumb...

That's the direction I offered, and it's a good general guideline if applied with common sense. A background jet contrail or a tree trunk along the edge of the frame might be visible even in the thumbnail and still be minor enough distractions to clone out, while a mosquito could be major enough to keep in a portrait if the model's looking at it cross-eyed on his nose. It's a matter of visual prominence... a question of, "Hey, where did that [cloned out thing] go?" At a glance, an object supported with fine fishing line appears to be levitating, while one held up with rope is obviously hanging. When in doubt, submit a ticket for opinions.
03/08/2009 10:12:49 PM · #9
Originally posted by scalvert:

When in doubt, submit a ticket for opinions.


Which I did last night and haven't heard a thing as far as a response or guidance goes. I just replied to my original ticket with another comparison image example. I hope to hear something before tonight's deadline!

Message edited by author 2009-03-16 01:10:41.
03/08/2009 10:53:17 PM · #10
I have heard from the SC (thanks, SC!).

After the challenge voting is over, I'll post the "before" and "after" images.


03/16/2009 01:06:21 AM · #11
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

I have heard from the SC (thanks, SC!).

After the challenge voting is over, I'll post the "before" and "after" images.


As promised, here are the "before" and "after" images.

Message edited by author 2009-03-17 00:36:14.
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