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05/01/2004 08:20:02 AM · #1 |
i have a sony but am thinking of upgrading, everyone here seems
to talk about a rebel? is there a big difference between the two
cameras?
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05/01/2004 08:22:32 AM · #2 |
You shouldn't get a camera just because people talk about it. It depends what you need. There is a huge difference between the 2, since one is a normal digicam and the other is a DSLR. I'd suggest going to //www.dpreview.com for a great review on the Rebel, and comparisons.
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05/01/2004 08:29:57 AM · #3 |
ja but look what nice shots you take, its the camera isnt it?
:)
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05/01/2004 08:42:10 AM · #4 |
| Get the Nikon D70 by far the best camera in this price range. |
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05/01/2004 09:17:04 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by goodman:
its the camera isnt it? |
Not necessarily the camera. I've seen many here spend a thou on a DSLR only to be disappointed that their photos are only marginally better. And there are dozens of ribbon-winning photographers who use less sophisticated cameras than yours. A DSLR won't make an average photographer great, but a great photographer can take great photos with an average camera. |
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05/01/2004 09:21:28 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by goodman:
ja but look what nice shots you take, its the camera isnt it? :) |
As the saying goes...: "Cameras don't take pictures, people do" |
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05/01/2004 09:25:33 AM · #7 |
| Um... your profile lists a Canon EOS-10D along with the Sony. If you've used it, you've no doubt seen the difference. ? |
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05/01/2004 09:34:40 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by goodman:
ja but look what nice shots you take, its the camera isnt it?
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Most of my shots were taken with a Canon G2 which is the equivilent to your sony I think. But yes, the Rebel did help :)
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05/01/2004 09:44:29 AM · #9 |
Um... your profile lists a Canon EOS-10D along with the Sony. If you've used it, you've no doubt seen the difference.
[not sure how to do the above,]
but i want to reply to this particular message.
I snuck my husbands camera out, yes big difference, not fair.
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05/01/2004 11:48:05 AM · #10 |
if you already have a 10d at the house why buy a rebel?
use whats available and save $1000 US...
or - i'll trade my rebel for your 10d - i'll even throw in my 75-300mm lense, and remote release...
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05/01/2004 12:32:25 PM · #11 |
sorry its my husbands, he doesnt like sharing.
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05/01/2004 01:04:50 PM · #12 |
I owned a Sony S85 and took, perhaps, around 10.000 pictures with it. I loved the camera and still do. It had a good Zeiss lens, plenty of features, was very robust and quick to use. I upgraded to the Sony F717 probably for similar reasons as the ones which appear to motivate you to look at a DSLR.
What I didn't realize then was that it took me about another ten months to become as proficient with the new camera as I had been with the old one. I did, at times, even regret the upgrade, since I was and remained unable to reproduce the same kind of images. Yes, the F717 opened up a new world for me: I could get a little closer to some subjects, I could take low-light pictures and night shots and simulate that strange sort of image quality that is so hard to describe but present in representative images taken with one camera.
What I did miss though, was the particular character (personality - whatever you wish to call it) of the little S85 and the beautiful photos it would take of certain subjects under certain conditions. I also regretted to have missed quite a few shots with my newer camera, because I was too busy learning its features and peculiarities instead of just instinctively shooting.
I now have upgraded to a DSLR and must admit to go through precisely the same conundrum, only amplified by an even greater learning curve, greater inconveniences (carrying around and changing lenses, tripod and much equipment) checking and rechecking controls, the manual, reading up on it, never mind the enormous ongoing expense for expensive glass. Whatever happened to taking pictures?
Yes, I will keep this camera for a good while - I better! But if I were to go back to the time before I made these decisions, I would, without a doubt, have been far more conservative with my purchases than I have been. I probably would have kept my S85 and, finally, upgraded to a Leica to keep for the rest of my life (for my children to inherit).
I firmly believe now (I didn't always!) that thorough familiarity with one camera coupled with a sense of what makes a good picture is the best equipment.
I thought I'd share this with you.
Message edited by author 2004-05-01 23:42:26.
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05/01/2004 10:59:47 PM · #13 |
zeuszen, I know exactly what you mean and I totally agree! After 12,000 shots or so, I went from a Canon G2 to a Digital Rebel and had the same experience. I could fumble around with all sorts of settings on the Rebel for an hour and still not reproduce a simple flash shot taken with one click on the G2 (even though I first learned photography on an SLR film camera). I spent weeks trying to solve the "problem," but got so frustrated that I finally returned the Rebel to the store. After further research, I decided to give the Rebel another chance (and got it for $100 less), but I also bought a Powershot G5 as a backup plan.
Now two months later, I'm finally getting the hang of the Rebel (though still not up to the level of familiarity I had with the G2), and I've bought three more lenses for the darn thing. My backup Powershot G5 sits on a shelf collecting dust- I doubt that I've taken 50 shots with it. Anybody wanna buy a G5 cheap? ;-) |
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