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02/19/2009 10:36:09 PM · #101 |
Originally posted by Lonni: You need to post in this thread. |
looked at the thread, I have voted 100% on 7 challenges in the past couple of months, but I don't know how to verify anything. I went back to the challenges but couldn't find the listing of "you have voted...." and I don't even know how to get your profile names into a thread (I am very challenged at times) so I think it is to late to do anything... |
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02/19/2009 10:42:00 PM · #102 |
Originally posted by Ja-9: Originally posted by Lonni: You need to post in this thread. |
looked at the thread, I have voted 100% on 7 challenges in the past couple of months, but I don't know how to verify anything. I went back to the challenges but couldn't find the listing of "you have voted...." and I don't even know how to get your profile names into a thread (I am very challenged at times) so I think it is to late to do anything... |
I have left you a comment in the other thread...I will meet you over there.
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02/19/2009 11:04:00 PM · #103 |
Ta Da...I finished...boy is my neck sore...
You have rated 175 of 176 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 175 of 176 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.9771.
Votes: 108
Views: 162
Avg Vote: 4.8796
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/19/09 11:02 pm
still falling.....
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02/19/2009 11:06:25 PM · #104 |
Originally posted by Ja-9: Ta Da...I finished... |
Thanks, Ja-9! I really appreciate your comment. Great herculean task accomplished. |
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02/19/2009 11:09:28 PM · #105 |
Originally posted by hahn23: Originally posted by Ja-9: Ta Da...I finished... |
Thanks, Ja-9! I really appreciate your comment. Great herculean task accomplished. |
I think the harder thing in this challenges was feeling like a metronome |
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02/19/2009 11:12:48 PM · #106 |
Originally posted by Ja-9: Originally posted by hahn23: Originally posted by Ja-9: Ta Da...I finished... |
Thanks, Ja-9! I really appreciate your comment. Great herculean task accomplished. |
I think the harder thing in this challenges was feeling like a metronome |
Tell me about it!
I even look at my own shot and naturally try to tilt my head, and it seems other people like it just fine.
Votes: 128
Views: 222
Avg Vote: 7.1484
Comments: 13
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02/20/2009 04:54:24 AM · #107 |
Mine has stopped climbing and started on the down-slope of the roller-coaster:
Votes: 104
Views: 169
Avg Vote: 5.1827
Comments: 4
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/20/09 04:10 am |
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02/20/2009 08:03:43 AM · #108 |
Going in the right direction.
Votes: 121
Views: 210
Avg Vote: 6.2149
Comments: 8
Favorites: 0 |
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02/20/2009 12:08:06 PM · #109 |
Votes: 114
Views: 172
Avg Vote: 4.8860
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/20/09 12:07 pm
finally holding steady....hmmm |
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02/20/2009 12:13:24 PM · #110 |
Wish that you are in top 20 :)
Originally posted by sempermarine: Going in the right direction.
Votes: 121
Views: 210
Avg Vote: 6.2149
Comments: 8
Favorites: 0 |
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02/20/2009 12:21:35 PM · #111 |
Ouch. I used my Point & Shoot camera for this challenge, instead of my regular digital SLR (on account of a dead battery). Big mistake...or at least in the lighting I had. Scores/comment reflect it. Ah well --- live and learn. :(
Votes: 123
Views: 194
Avg Vote: 4.2358
Comments: 4
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/20/09 12:10 pm
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02/20/2009 02:59:33 PM · #112 |
Originally posted by hahn23: Originally posted by PhotoInterest: Originally posted by kenskid: Some people are products of their culture?!?!?!?! LOL....What does that mean in relation to what you responded to? ? !?
Originally posted by hahn23: Originally posted by mikeee: Originally posted by hahn23: Originally posted by mikeee: I'm finding that most of the images I can look at with my head upright, but on some I immediately tilt my head over to one side to compensate, usually the one with trees. |
???? Vertical lines will rotate in direct correlation to the tilt of the horizon. All vertical lines are subject to this phenomenon. |
Yes, that's the point I'm making. If it's a building- or a horizon-based image I look at it without tilting my head, but if I see a tree or grass I naturally try to correct and roll my head to compensate. It's not a criticism of the photos, just an observation of my reaction to obviously tilted trees. |
Some people are products of their culture. | |
LOL...I was wondering the same thing??????? I'm still scratching my head here on this set of comments.
Blahhhhh.....4.15....may be getting the brown on this one. :) |
I don't know. Ask the man whose head flips when he sees trees. |
ROFL....ok.
I had to go back to re-read what this was all about, to even see what "the man whose head flips when he sees trees" meant. When I did, I read it that for some reason, when he looks at the tilted shots that have buildings in them, he doesn't feel the need to tilt is his head but, when he's looking at a tilted shots of trees, he feels the need to turn his head to the side.
I dunno....I guess that I didn't take it as him saying anything bad or critical against anyone or anything. I read it as him meaning that for whatever the reason, it's an odd little quirk that he found himself doing rather than any insult to anyone or anyone's shot. I could be wrong, but I took it to mean that he was finding an amusing oddity in the way that he was viewing the shots and making light of the tilting causing us all to want to tilt our heads out of a natural reflex. It seemed to me that he was simply saying that in HIS case...he didn't do it with buildings but, felt the need to do it for tree shots. A few others have commented on feeling the automatic need to tilt their heads with the shot too and having sore necks from doing it. I took it to be the same thing???
Did you think he was insulting people's photos? :) I think he was just adding a comment to the score threads with a bit of amusement like others have in here about their sore necks. Couldn't that have been the case? :) |
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02/20/2009 03:03:30 PM · #113 |
Opppssss.....forgot to add score
Votes: 117
Views: 189
Avg Vote: 4.0513
Comments: 4
Guess I won't cause any broken necks on mine. ;-) Think I'm starting to get used to the 4's now. I may just get excited about 5's now the way that I used to get excited about 6's!!! *grin*
ETA: Thanks Ja-9!!! Just got your comment! :)
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02/20/2009 03:43:12 PM · #114 |
Originally posted by PhotoInterest: I dunno....I guess that I didn't take it as him saying anything bad or critical against anyone or anything. I read it as him meaning that for whatever the reason, it's an odd little quirk that he found himself doing rather than any insult to anyone or anyone's shot. I could be wrong, but I took it to mean that he was finding an amusing oddity in the way that he was viewing the shots and making light of the tilting causing us all to want to tilt our heads out of a natural reflex. It seemed to me that he was simply saying that in HIS case...he didn't do it with buildings but, felt the need to do it for tree shots. A few others have commented on feeling the automatic need to tilt their heads with the shot too and having sore necks from doing it. I took it to be the same thing??? |
That's what I understood him to mean.
As a matter of fact, with my entry I went out of my way to try to make it not appear as if the image itself was skewed, but that the horizon was tilted.
Challenge Description:
Use your imagination and submit a shot with a TILTED horizon used effectively.
It's all about interpretation.....and how well YOU convey yours to the voters.
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02/20/2009 05:36:16 PM · #115 |
ouch! I just voted on this challenge.
Terrific photos, people! (I entered gas station) There were a number of photos I didn't end up voting on. One photo that was incredible--but I couldn't see a tilted horizon in it. It was strange, I couldn't vote it down because of the lack of tilted horizon, just in case I wasn't getting something. And I couldn't give it the vote I wanted to because it wasn't fair to people who did tilt the horizon! One photo in particular is really bothering me--the horizon is tilted, but just a very small amount--but it's an incredible photo. *sigh*. I wish there was a forum for discussing a photo before voting on it! |
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02/20/2009 07:58:26 PM · #116 |
Votes: 122
Views: 186
Avg Vote: 4.8770
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/20/09 07:54 pm
Just wish I had more comments...good bad or otherwise....anything...:( |
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02/20/2009 08:13:02 PM · #117 |
Originally posted by Ja-9: Votes: 122
Views: 186
Avg Vote: 4.8770
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/20/09 07:54 pm
Just wish I had more comments...good bad or otherwise....anything...:( |
Will get to you probably after voting is over. You did leave me well thought out comments in the current challenges (Post it & Tilted). Thanks |
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02/20/2009 08:49:41 PM · #118 |
Votes: 124
Views: 188
Avg Vote: 4.9032
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/20/09 08:48 pm
pathetic...I am excited to hit 4.9...but at least it is going up!!! |
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02/20/2009 09:20:09 PM · #119 |
You have rated 170 of 174 images (98%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 47 of 174 images (27%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.200
Some really terrific stuff here, people.....some of the concepts and executions just blew me away!
I grabbed a couple of favs out of the offerings.
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02/20/2009 09:39:07 PM · #120 |
Originally posted by vawendy: ouch! I just voted on this challenge.
Terrific photos, people! (I entered gas station) There were a number of photos I didn't end up voting on. One photo that was incredible--but I couldn't see a tilted horizon in it. It was strange, I couldn't vote it down because of the lack of tilted horizon, just in case I wasn't getting something. And I couldn't give it the vote I wanted to because it wasn't fair to people who did tilt the horizon! One photo in particular is really bothering me--the horizon is tilted, but just a very small amount--but it's an incredible photo. *sigh*. I wish there was a forum for discussing a photo before voting on it! |
Wendy....don't know if this might help in whichever photos are troubling you (I've had the same problem at times....wanting to talk to others but, can't during a challenge)
1) The visible horizon is the apparent boundary line between sky and earth or sea. The astronomical horizon is the great circle of the celestial sphere 90° from the zenith and the nadir....or......
2) The extent of one's perception, understanding, knowledge, or vision: ken, purview, range, reach, scope. See ability/inability, knowledge/ignorance, see/not see.
So, perhaps, there are other definitions of horizon that the photog went with other than the one that comes to mind immediately??? Not sure which ones you are talking about, but maybe, this helps???
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02/20/2009 10:33:57 PM · #121 |
Originally posted by PhotoInterest: Originally posted by vawendy: ouch! I just voted on this challenge.
Terrific photos, people! (I entered gas station) There were a number of photos I didn't end up voting on. One photo that was incredible--but I couldn't see a tilted horizon in it. It was strange, I couldn't vote it down because of the lack of tilted horizon, just in case I wasn't getting something. And I couldn't give it the vote I wanted to because it wasn't fair to people who did tilt the horizon! One photo in particular is really bothering me--the horizon is tilted, but just a very small amount--but it's an incredible photo. *sigh*. I wish there was a forum for discussing a photo before voting on it! |
Wendy....don't know if this might help in whichever photos are troubling you (I've had the same problem at times....wanting to talk to others but, can't during a challenge)
1) The visible horizon is the apparent boundary line between sky and earth or sea. The astronomical horizon is the great circle of the celestial sphere 90° from the zenith and the nadir....or......
2) The extent of one's perception, understanding, knowledge, or vision: ken, purview, range, reach, scope. See ability/inability, knowledge/ignorance, see/not see.
So, perhaps, there are other definitions of horizon that the photog went with other than the one that comes to mind immediately??? Not sure which ones you are talking about, but maybe, this helps??? |
I've taken into account:
In many contexts, especially perspective drawing, the curvature of the earth is typically disregarded and the horizon is considered the theoretical line to which points on any horizontal plane converge (when projected onto the picture plane) as their distance from the observer increases. Note that, for observers near the ground, the difference between this geometrical horizon (which assumes a perfectly flat, infinite ground plane) and the true horizon (which assumes a spherical Earth surface) is typically imperceptibly small, because of the relative size of the observer.
In astronomy the horizon is the horizontal plane through (the eyes of) the observer. It is the fundamental plane of the horizontal coordinate system, the locus of points which have an altitude of zero degrees. While similar in ways to the geometrical horizon described above, in this context a horizon may be considered to be a plane in space, rather than a line on a picture plane.
and also:
From a point above the surface the horizon appears slightly bent. There is a basic geometrical relationship between this visual curvature κ, the altitude and the Earth's radius. It is
\kappa=\sqrt{\left(\frac{R+h}{R}\right)^2-1}\ .
The curvature is the reciprocal of the curvature angular radius in radians. A curvature of 1 appears as a circle of an angular radius of 45° corresponding to an altitude of approximately 2640 km above the Earth's surface. At an altitude of 10 km (33,000 ft, the typical cruising altitude of an airliner) the mathematical curvature of the horizon is about 0.056, the same curvature of the rim of circle with a radius of 10 metres that is viewed from 56 centimetres. However, the apparent curvature is less than that due to refraction of light in the atmosphere and because the horizon is often masked by high cloud layers that reduce the altitude above the visual surface.
I've also looked at any horizontal/vertical lines in relation to the apparent horizon to see if they were tilted. But there still are a few photos to circumnavigate my ken. |
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02/20/2009 11:03:04 PM · #122 |
Originally posted by vawendy: I've taken into account:
In many contexts ...
In astronomy ...
and also: ...
\kappa=\sqrt{\left(\frac{R+h}{R}\right)^2-1}\ .
The curvature is the reciprocal of the curvature angular radius in radians. A curvature of 1 appears as a circle of an angular radius of 45° corresponding to an altitude of approximately 2640 km above the Earth's surface. ...
I've also looked at any horizontal/vertical lines in relation to the apparent horizon to see if they were tilted. But there still are a few photos to circumnavigate my ken. |
Dang! OK. I believe you. :-D |
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02/21/2009 07:24:58 AM · #123 |
Votes: 146
Views: 253
Avg Vote: 6.3493
Comments: 11
Favorites: 0 |
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02/21/2009 11:53:01 AM · #124 |
still only 2 comments...guess it isn't memorable (neither good nor bad...hmmm)
Votes: 133
Views: 200
Avg Vote: 4.8722
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 02/21/09 11:51 am
Oops...guess I should say "thank you for the 2 that I have...."
Message edited by author 2009-02-21 11:54:05. |
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02/21/2009 12:33:54 PM · #125 |
Originally posted by vawendy: Originally posted by PhotoInterest: Originally posted by vawendy: ouch! I just voted on this challenge.
Terrific photos, people! (I entered gas station) There were a number of photos I didn't end up voting on. One photo that was incredible--but I couldn't see a tilted horizon in it. It was strange, I couldn't vote it down because of the lack of tilted horizon, just in case I wasn't getting something. And I couldn't give it the vote I wanted to because it wasn't fair to people who did tilt the horizon! One photo in particular is really bothering me--the horizon is tilted, but just a very small amount--but it's an incredible photo. *sigh*. I wish there was a forum for discussing a photo before voting on it! |
Wendy....don't know if this might help in whichever photos are troubling you (I've had the same problem at times....wanting to talk to others but, can't during a challenge)
1) The visible horizon is the apparent boundary line between sky and earth or sea. The astronomical horizon is the great circle of the celestial sphere 90° from the zenith and the nadir....or......
2) The extent of one's perception, understanding, knowledge, or vision: ken, purview, range, reach, scope. See ability/inability, knowledge/ignorance, see/not see.
So, perhaps, there are other definitions of horizon that the photog went with other than the one that comes to mind immediately??? Not sure which ones you are talking about, but maybe, this helps??? |
I've taken into account:
In many contexts, especially perspective drawing, the curvature of the earth is typically disregarded and the horizon is considered the theoretical line to which points on any horizontal plane converge (when projected onto the picture plane) as their distance from the observer increases. Note that, for observers near the ground, the difference between this geometrical horizon (which assumes a perfectly flat, infinite ground plane) and the true horizon (which assumes a spherical Earth surface) is typically imperceptibly small, because of the relative size of the observer.
In astronomy the horizon is the horizontal plane through (the eyes of) the observer. It is the fundamental plane of the horizontal coordinate system, the locus of points which have an altitude of zero degrees. While similar in ways to the geometrical horizon described above, in this context a horizon may be considered to be a plane in space, rather than a line on a picture plane.
and also:
From a point above the surface the horizon appears slightly bent. There is a basic geometrical relationship between this visual curvature ê, the altitude and the Earth's radius. It is
\kappa=\sqrt{\left(\frac{R+h}{R}\right)^2-1}\ .
The curvature is the reciprocal of the curvature angular radius in radians. A curvature of 1 appears as a circle of an angular radius of 45° corresponding to an altitude of approximately 2640 km above the Earth's surface. At an altitude of 10 km (33,000 ft, the typical cruising altitude of an airliner) the mathematical curvature of the horizon is about 0.056, the same curvature of the rim of circle with a radius of 10 metres that is viewed from 56 centimetres. However, the apparent curvature is less than that due to refraction of light in the atmosphere and because the horizon is often masked by high cloud layers that reduce the altitude above the visual surface.
I've also looked at any horizontal/vertical lines in relation to the apparent horizon to see if they were tilted. But there still are a few photos to circumnavigate my ken. |
LOL....Wendy...it certainly seems that you have gone above and beyond what most members would have gone to in taking photos into consideration!!! I'd say that you've MORE than done your job in trying to figure this out! I certainly don't think that the majority of voters would have gone to this extent by any means. They'd see or not see their definition of "horizon" and vote accordingly. My hat is off to you and I take a bow to you for such tenacity and dedication. I'm sure that you arrived at the right decision no matter what it was. :) |
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