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01/29/2009 03:24:58 AM · #26
Originally posted by bassbone:

You seem to have picked a poor example for your case. At least 15 people specifically stated during voting on the image you posted did not seem to meet the challenge description. DNMC is a sure fire way to get low scores - and it had nothing to do with nudity or being a prude.


OK, maybe it's not the best example. But it's nevertheless an interesting case. You say the 1s are DNMC votes. IMO the umbrella gives a strong feeling of intimacy. The lawn seems quite private as well. It's certainly far from a total DNMC! It could just be the subconscious of prude people :p

This brings us back to the point of the OP: even if one does not like the subject, one could take a little time to find some positive points in it and a new world will open. For the picture in question, there are 100 possible intimate stories behind. I thought it might inspire K10DGuy for one of his cool comments ;-)

01/29/2009 10:01:20 AM · #27
Originally posted by MistyMucky:

... IMO the umbrella gives a strong feeling of intimacy. The lawn seems quite private as well.

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01/29/2009 10:08:55 AM · #28
Originally posted by dahkota:

I think this article relates to this thread, and another being argued in Rant. At the very least, it is interesting food for thought...

sorry 'bout that.


This article talks about the photographer and what the photographer should shoot. This doesn't relate much on how to appreciate the other arts of photography as well. I think what i'm talking about here, is slightly different. I'm talking about stepping out of your comfort zone and try to appreciate the other genre's of photography. You see a shot of a gun shot wound...don't immediately dismiss it and vote it a 1 because there too much gore to it...take the time to look at the photograph and figure out why the photographer framed it in that way....and did he do a good job conveying the story he was trying to convey...

01/29/2009 10:27:07 AM · #29
Originally posted by albc28:


This article talks about the photographer and what the photographer should shoot. This doesn't relate much on how to appreciate the other arts of photography as well. I think what i'm talking about here, is slightly different. I'm talking about stepping out of your comfort zone and try to appreciate the other genre's of photography. You see a shot of a gun shot wound...don't immediately dismiss it and vote it a 1 because there too much gore to it...take the time to look at the photograph and figure out why the photographer framed it in that way....and did he do a good job conveying the story he was trying to convey...


You are right, to some degree - the author talks about picking subjects for creating images. But he has a few valid points:

"what a photograph depicts has generally taken precedence over what a photograph means."

"Each time a viewer looks at a print, the photographer is slaying 'I found this subject to be more interesting or significant than thousands of other objects I could have captured; I want you to appreciate it too. '"

"You must engage and hold the audience's attention before the content can flow. It is the same with images. Just be aware that some subjects are more accessible and interesting to the lay person than others - and it is deliberately perverse to ignore this consideration. There is a very fine line between pandering to popular appeal and a respectful consideration of viewers̢۪ interests, and only the integrity of the photographer will
hold the balance."

In essence, its the photographer's job to make an image interesting, relevant, or engaging. For example, there are 100 ways (or more) to capture a gun shot wound. Not all instances are going to be equally interesting or engaging. I think often, photographers get caught up in the emotion generated during a shoot or about a subject itself and forget to critically look at an image. Then , when it does poorly, they blame the voter for not understanding, disliking the subject, or any other kind of bias. And yes, it does happen. But, often, people just didn't respond to your vision - its as simple as that. Blame it on trolls, crappy cameras, or disingenuous voters and you really won't get very far or learn much.
02/01/2009 10:46:46 AM · #30
Well looks like my pleas aren't helping right now...may even be hurting me. I wish I were receiving comments so i can at least know if it is a horrible photograph or if it just isn't dpc friendly!
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