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01/16/2009 03:48:18 PM · #1 |
| I think it is great having different editing levels for challenges. However, i probably wrongly assumed that open challenges were basic editing and members challenges were normally advanced+. Moreover I thought that being able to enter advanced editing challenges was a reason for site membership. For 2 weeks in a row the open challenges have been advanced. Is this coincidence or a new trend? I have no axe to grind as I am a paid up member and am doing OK in a current advanced challenge. However, I do like that i am forced to try an get it right in camera for the open challenges. Should the open challenges be restricted to basic editing only? |
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01/16/2009 03:50:58 PM · #2 |
| I think Langdon made a couple of exceptions due to the subject matter of the challenge. |
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01/16/2009 04:05:47 PM · #3 |
I have to agree that there should be at least one Basic editing challenge each week in order that people who don't have a copy of photoshop or something similar are not disadvantaged |
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01/16/2009 04:09:51 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
I have to agree that there should be at least one Basic editing challenge each week in order that people who don't have a copy of photoshop or something similar are not disadvantaged |
I think the experienced people have an advantage even without layers or selective editing available. But that's the point of this site. You learn from it all. Besides, there are plenty of freebie apps that give most of the ability of Photoshop or PaintShop Pro.
Message edited by author 2009-01-16 16:11:12. |
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01/16/2009 04:52:52 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
I think Langdon made a couple of exceptions due to the subject matter of the challenge. |
This is correct -- the vast majority of the Open challenges are Basic editing. |
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01/16/2009 07:06:46 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Lutchenko:
I have to agree that there should be at least one Basic editing challenge each week in order that people who don't have a copy of photoshop or something similar are not disadvantaged |
People who "don't have a copy of photoshop or something similar" are disadvantaged regardless of the editing rules in effect. They have fewer options available to them in editing under either ruleset. For the matter of that, it's always been my contention that expert photo editors have a bigger advantage in basic editing than they do in advanced editing. Why? Because one of the keys to photoshop is that they have evolved, over time, all sorts of nifty tools to *automate* processes that used to be done laboriously, by hand. Those who really understand the program can often legally (under basic rules) attain effects that, under advanced rules, just involve pushing a button and adjusting a slider.
R.
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01/17/2009 03:29:36 AM · #7 |
I agree entirely that those who are skilled at editing have an advantage in both basic or advanced editing. However, the question remains, should the free open challenges be restricted to basic editing only.
Rightly or wrongly, when I first found the DPC site I felt that "BASIC" was less intimidating so had a go. I even had to read the tutorials to get the pic the right size etc for entry, so would no way have entered anything with "Advanced in the title". As I have learned from the tutorials, forums and your comments my confidence increased. I joined and started entering some of the advanced challenges.
If the open challenges were advanced editing I am not sure I would have got sucked into to this great site
Message edited by author 2009-01-17 04:09:24. |
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01/17/2009 08:13:53 AM · #8 |
Yes, the free challenges are noramlly restricted to Basic editing, per Paul's earlier response.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by yospiff:
I think Langdon made a couple of exceptions due to the subject matter of the challenge. |
This is correct -- the vast majority of the Open challenges are Basic editing. |
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01/17/2009 09:16:39 AM · #9 |
| I have a related question...on several of the challenges there is a "yellow" flag next to the Advanced Editing icon...it says under the advanced editing rules ... "Extra Rules: Note: This challenge is running under Advanced Editing". but I cannot find any extra rules is there a difference between that and the "Advanced Editing"...I keep looking for the Extra Rules...but so far nothing. Is there a "secret door?" Or is this just another "known" thing on the site? |
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01/17/2009 09:19:27 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
I have a related question...on several of the challenges there is a "yellow" flag next to the Advanced Editing icon...it says under the advanced editing rules ... "Extra Rules: Note: This challenge is running under Advanced Editing". but I cannot find any extra rules is there a difference between that and the "Advanced Editing"...I keep looking for the Extra Rules...but so far nothing. Is there a "secret door?" Or is this just another "known" thing on the site? |
The flag is there so that the usual expect-it-to-be-basic entrants will become AWARE that advanced editing is in play for the challenge. There's no extra changes IN the advanced rules for these challenges.
R.
Message edited by author 2009-01-17 09:19:53.
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01/17/2009 09:54:21 AM · #11 |
| ohhh...thought it was something like that, but I kept looking for the "Extra Rules"... |
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01/17/2009 10:11:50 AM · #12 |
I also think that Langdon allows a few open challenges to be advanced to give registered users a taste of what they are missing. ;-)
I do not really agree though that someone without editing software is disadvantaged. I usually take the same steps in advanced as I do in basic editing which is largely global settings that most freeware programs can do.
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