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04/26/2004 10:08:46 AM · #1
I know it's been discussed before in other threads, but I'm feeling frustrated of being voted down and not knowing why. I think that the best way to know what are your strong and weak spots is to break down the vote, let's say in 5 aspects:

Composition (Light, DOF, balance, use of lines, etc.)
Meeting the challenge
Sharpness
Use of photographic techniques (Exposure, Color, etc.)
Creativity

Giving each aspect a:

0 for poor
1 for average
2 for excellent

This way you could have your statistics for overall average and aspect average for each picture.

I know that at this moment for most of you, the voting process for a picture takes no longer than 2 seconds (looking at it and choosing a number from 1 to 5), with this new process it would take at least 6 seconds to vote for a picture, which I think is not too much asking... Do you?
04/26/2004 10:10:52 AM · #2
Multiplying current voting time by 5 is too much to ask from me.

And it is not 2 seconds per image currently.
04/26/2004 10:36:09 AM · #3
I think many people here already use such matrices that they themselves have derived. Get some DPC friends and have them look at your shots. You can also compare them with the top shots of the challenge and see for yourself--this is what will ultimately make us good photographers.
04/26/2004 01:31:50 PM · #4
Originally posted by willem:

Multiplying current voting time by 5 is too much to ask from me.

And it is not 2 seconds per image currently.


Maybe for you it is not a 2 second per image thing, neither for me, but it seems that there are lots of people out there that do so...

My intent is not to multiply by 5 the voting time, but to make the voter watch for these aspects in the picture before voting. I do it that way and it is not that terrible.
04/26/2004 01:33:40 PM · #5
Originally posted by dsidwell:

I think many people here already use such matrices that they themselves have derived. Get some DPC friends and have them look at your shots. You can also compare them with the top shots of the challenge and see for yourself--this is what will ultimately make us good photographers.


I use this scheme to vote and it really works for me, I think you're right, but some things always elude me... Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
04/26/2004 01:41:23 PM · #6
I think one of the issues are that in order for some voters to quickly vote for 20% of photos, they simply put their mouse on one number (3, 4 or 5) and click away as the pictures come up. I am not sure of this but the DPC staff should be able to draw their own statistics to see if this is a trend.

One way to reduce this type of 'speed voting' would be to make the user interface in such way that the 'voting bar' comes up in a different spot for each picture... just like the bottom 'voting bar' does. This way, the voters would at least have to think about it for a second before placing the cursor on the appropriate vote.
04/26/2004 02:00:26 PM · #7
Originally posted by Are_62:


One way to reduce this type of 'speed voting' would be to make the user interface in such way that the 'voting bar' comes up in a different spot for each picture... just like the bottom 'voting bar' does. This way, the voters would at least have to think about it for a second before placing the cursor on the appropriate vote.


I already have to scroll enough thank you.
04/26/2004 02:11:28 PM · #8
Originally posted by rgarciah55:


Maybe for you it is not a 2 second per image thing, neither for me, but it seems that there are lots of people out there that do so...


I admit that I am a speedvoter. I actually look at an image between two to four seconds (the rest of the time is used for scrolling and moving my mouse pointer to the right number). If it doesn't grab me in that timespan the image is average and between 4-6.
If it does grab my attention I look at it between 4 to 10 seconds and it is either so bad that it is between 1-3 or good enough for 7 or 8.
When it is really good I look at it a bit longer to enjoy and mark it an 8-10 and get back to it after the challenge.

And before you say that you can't see enough in so little time to really see it, I think you're wrong. I think I can, just like I can read multiple sentences in one short view. When a photo has good content and/or good composition it will hold your view instantly and make you explore it further.
When I look at the post-vote thumbnails for adjustmens I can see that I most often made the right decisions for myself.


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