What Subjects have been overplayed?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

04/15/2004 05:18:42 PM · #26

pictures of sasquatch

frumoaznicul

04/15/2004 05:26:52 PM · #27

Originally posted by moodville:

If we are talking about liking or disliking art, sure - you either like something or dislike something. On DPC arent we considered judges of a photography competition? Certainly the impact of a shot is going to either put some negative or positive feeling toward the image but condemning a selection of images before even looking at them, let alone after looking at them, seems quite biased. If you do not like flower shots then dont vote on the flower shots. But as I already stated, there is already a constant battle between 'it's a flower shot, 10' and the 'it's a flower shot, 1' brigade.

Yea but that's again human nature some are smart some have artistic view on things some don't. One thing teachers were careful enough to teach me in the art school I took whas that some artists are really great but they fail to adress to anyone else than other artists, who care about the same things they do. Stuff like composition, balance tehnicalities are no concern of uneducated eyes. To them is a matter of "i like it or not" most of the times for no other reason than if it apeals to theyr eyes or not. You hit the right button on me with the flower shots. You are right, I dislike most of them, I consider them more nature's art than the photographer's art UNLESS if the photographer aproached that flower in a surprisingly interesting way, angle light or anything where I can see his own work vision or whatever. Actualy this goes for every subject. I think it's not the subject that should matter but the aproach. The fact that some people give 1's to certain subject and 10's to them well that's just theyr stupidity, another purely human thing we couldn't live without.:) They can't see and that's theyr loss. I again tell you I really hate cats I consider them the most hideous creatures on the plannet, but that cat in my favorites whenever I look at it, it wakes some kind of feeling in my stomach. With all my arts school I cant really tell what is it about it that I really like, and I belive that's what makes it even more a fantastic aproach to me. The not so nice ones are 100's of snapshotish cat shots where the photographer expects me to give a good vote only because his animal is cute. Isn't that a sort of taking advantage of mother nature's art. That's why I sometimes I vote lower some pet shots where the pet is actualy cute and lovely but I can see any other contribution of the photographers other than holding a camera and hitting a button.

Message edited by author 2004-04-15 17:31:01.

04/15/2004 05:55:57 PM · #28

Originally posted by Gordon:

I really like Soni's puppy shots.

I typically dislike selective desaturation for no real reason.

I typically dislike random shots of pets without thought.

These puppy shots are great, capturing the spirit of puppyness, the mad bundle of energy and the new bumblingness. Hopefully she'll post the other two in the series. Really enjoyable.

Thank you, Gordon!
Here are the other 2 photos
This is Angelina running at full speed!

And this is her falling. hehehehe...

04/15/2004 05:58:55 PM · #29

Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

. That's why I sometimes I vote lower some pet shots where the pet is actualy cute and lovely but I can see any other contribution of the photographers other than holding a camera and hitting a button.

Do you really think it is that easy? Do you have a pet?

Taking pictures of kids and animals is the hardest thing to do. Try it, you might like the challenge. :-)

admart01

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

04/15/2004 06:01:59 PM · #30

Originally posted by Rooster:

I agree. I can actually recognise some of the fotogs by their pets!

OOOPS -- that would be me! FYI - I am also found of shoe-horning in flower shots where only I see a connection.

Welcome to DPC! In my book your shot of a motorcycle, toy cars/dolls, two-tone liquid in glasses, and a hand grasping/grabbing/clenched/etc. had better be well executed or I'm apt to say "oh no, not another ..."

As for the recent "poop" shots -- enough said

heida

Canon EOS-5D

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

04/15/2004 06:02:28 PM · #31

Those puppy shots are awesome! Angelina is adorable :D

dacrazyrn

Nikon D300

04/15/2004 06:18:14 PM · #32

I agree, pets and kids are cliche, but try to take an almost 2 year old out by yourself to get a portrait
Like this one

Not very easy. Attention span does not allow posing.
If it were film it would never be done. TOO expensive.
and yes I posted the picture, because it is peoples pet peeve. (C;

Message edited by author 2004-04-15 18:19:15.

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

04/15/2004 06:19:29 PM · #33

Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

I agree, pets and kids are cliche, but try to take an almost 2 year old out by yourself to get a portrait
Like this one

Not very easy. Attention span does not allow posing.
If it were film it would never be done. TOO expensive.

Love the warm soft lighting there!

mocabela

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

04/15/2004 06:22:07 PM · #34

Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

Beautiful shot...

faidoi

Pentax K10D

04/15/2004 06:25:06 PM · #35

Happy reading. Notice all the sarcasm.

Message edited by author 2004-04-15 18:25:57.

04/15/2004 06:26:58 PM · #36

Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

I totally agree with this statement. A toddler is the hardest subject to capture.

You did a wonderful job here capture not only him but his boyish wonders and curiousity.

garrywhite2

Canon EOS-7D

04/15/2004 06:28:25 PM · #37

Originally posted by moodville:

Welcome to DPC where the quality of your image means nothing. It's all about meeting the preconceived ideas of the voter's personal definition of the challenge based on their location, beliefs, pet peeves, dislike of certain subjects etc etc ad nauseum.

I agree completely with that statemnet. There not one person who votes in the challenges that doesn't bring with them "preconceived ideas of the voter's personal definition of the challenge based on their location, beliefs, pet peeves, dislike of certain subjects etc etc ad nauseum."

It is simply impossible not to. The only difference is those who recognize it, and those who choose to ignore it and believe otherwise.

04/15/2004 06:29:13 PM · #38

Originally posted by heida:

Those puppy shots are awesome! Angelina is adorable :D

Thanks heida!

Tikicharm

HP PhotoSmart 945

04/15/2004 06:32:03 PM · #39

I have yet to see, 2 of the same photographs (by 2 different photographers) that are the same. There can be 50 people taking shots of (guitars for example) and because of the artist point of view- each shot will be different, of better or worse quality ect. So, same subject matter don't mean same shot.

frumoaznicul

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

04/15/2004 06:56:30 PM · #40

Originally posted by Sonifo:

Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
. That's why I sometimes I vote lower some pet shots where the pet is actualy cute and lovely but I can see any other contribution of the photographers other than holding a camera and hitting a button.

Do you really think it is that easy? Do you have a pet?

Taking pictures of kids and animals is the hardest thing to do. Try it, you might like the challenge. :-)

I agree, I don't have a pet, I used to have a dog but it died a few months back, but I have a 2 years old little girl here and I took 3000 shots with no remarcable results yet. That's why I never post any of them. :) By the way your shots are great, I like them, and I'm not just saying that, I can clearly see some contribution of the photographer in them. I whas talking about voting down shots where it's clear photographer didn't even bother about anything else than hitting the button thinking the animal is cute and that's enough. I know it is impossible to control kids and animals so you can project any kind of vision of yourself on the image. But we can all try to atleast surprise them in an interesting moment like you did with yours, or like dacrazyrn's shot above wich whas one of my favorite in the portraits, we can all not mind the dirt on our pants if we kneel to take a better angle, but when I see one where the photographer didn't try anything else and all there is to the shot is that the pet, kid, frog, or whatever is beautiful, that's just not theyr art to me it's mother natures art.

moodville

Nikon D100

04/15/2004 07:01:25 PM · #41

Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

You are right, I dislike most of them, I consider them more nature's art than the photographer's art UNLESS if the photographer aproached that flower in a surprisingly interesting way, angle light or anything where I can see his own work vision or whatever. Isn't that a sort of taking advantage of mother nature's art.

Do you even look long enough past 'it's a flower' to see if they have approached it differently? The only way to present a flower differently than the way mother nature intended would be to pick it and place it in a human-made environment and even then there are only so many angles to photograph it from. Some people like flower shots to represent what they are, pictures of flowers and not some odd work of art that makes them look nothing like flowers. I also assume you mean taking pictures of buildings would be taking advantage of the architect's art, pictures of people are the art of two parents, animals of all kind mother nature, waterfalls, the world around us, etc etc. What is photography? I thought it was taking pictures of the world around us, no matter who created it and sharing it with others. If photography is about creating things that do not actually exist and shooting it at angles that no one has ever done before then maybe I really have been doing it all wrong from the start.

pmichaud

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

04/15/2004 07:09:01 PM · #42

How do you get the pictures to appear in your posts? I know this question is off-base here, but I love the pictures you are including. Just can't seem to get it done for myself.

LoudDog

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

04/15/2004 07:09:24 PM · #43

I think complaining about voters is over done... Oh, the subject is photos that are over done.

To add to the list, slow shutter attempts have been a little over done lately.

04/15/2004 07:14:37 PM · #44

Originally posted by ancientimages:

How do you get the pictures to appear in your posts? I know this question is off-base here, but I love the pictures you are including. Just can't seem to get it done for myself.

The photos of mine are linked from my website.
You can use this

little icon to post your photos from your portfolio on dpc. Just add the number that is behind the url address. This is what it should look like~
[ thumb] 70415 [ /thumb]

frumoaznicul

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

04/15/2004 07:17:11 PM · #45

Originally posted by moodville:

I think good photography is where I can see a photographer in the shot and not just a flower, kid, dog, or whatever creature. Same goes for buildings and everything. It is not about creating things that doesnt exist. It is about like I forgot who but some important photographer said something like "I really belive there are things nobody would see if I didn't photograph them" I think its Diane Arbus but I'm not sure. To give you another example of a clichee I am really getting sick of seeing those fluffy long exposure waterfalls. But when I see one that is composed well seen somehow different than everybody else had seen it before, or if it wakes any kind of feeling, than I take it as a good one and I may give it a 10. But when I see that making it fluffy is all that concerned the photographer, and he didn't care about anything else, I'm sorry but that's an old trick and It can't impress me anymore. Those are photographs too, basicaly anything that comes from a camera is a photography but they are no more than snapshots to me. And yes even tho I'm on a slow dialup I do look long enough to try to understand every shot I see when I vote, that's why I never seem to finish voting any challenge :) Someone told me once art is communication, a piece of art must communicate something if you whant me to like your shots try to send me a message with them even if I don't get the message correctly I must feel that "there is a message in this". Unless ofcourse it's "abstract" then there are no rules except probably colors textures or such.

PS to me this

is not "just another flower shot" it is so much more. I just bumped into it a second ago by mistake, and I remained speachless for a second a verry well seen color composition.

Message edited by author 2004-04-15 19:25:13.

pmichaud

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

04/15/2004 07:26:14 PM · #46

Thank you!! Here's a try at this. I haven't been here long enough either to be aware of subjects which have been overplayed. I am really in awe of the quality of images I see here. Technology and the internet are still like magic to me (but then I can remember entering data on punch cards - I did see most of the last century...) But I am learning. I was supposed to be on a plane to Alaska 9-11-01. Needless to say, I didn't make it -- drove to New Mexico instead. This was one of the images I shot while still in a semi-state of shock. (if it works) I wish I had taken more shots of the sky with no jet trails.

Message edited by author 2004-04-15 19:29:49.

hsteg

Fujifilm X-T20

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

04/15/2004 07:27:22 PM · #47

Originally posted by lockjawdavis:

Cats, yes. Flowers of every sort. Kiddies big and small. However, my real pet peeve is the guitar shot. I've seen dozens of them here. I love guitars (own five of 'em), but have yet to see an original shot of one that stops me in my tracks.

look at mine!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/15/2004 07:32:17 PM · #48

Well I tried to do something different ... it wasn't exactly a guitar-related challenge though.

garrywhite2

Canon EOS-7D