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10/09/2008 11:04:26 AM · #26 |
Am I missing something here? Hawkeye says "Look up the facts and you'll see that ACORN has been called on this." Obviously, ACORN has been accused, but that doesn't mean they're guilty. If they are engaging in illegal activities, there should be arrests, and there should be convictions. Until I see proof of convictions, it just looks like Republicans trying to stop Democrats from registering and voting.
By the way, I am against voter fraud. If it is proven that ACORN or its employees have committed fraud, then screw those guys, they suck. |
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10/09/2008 11:07:43 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
... The Nut didn't fall far from the tree. |
Goodness... you didn't hurt yourself I hope? :O)
Ray |
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10/09/2008 11:29:43 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by freakin_hilarious:
By the way, I am against voter fraud. If it is proven that ACORN or its employees have committed fraud, then screw those guys, they suck. |
Agreed. If there is fraud being perpetrated by $10-an-hour canvassers making up names in order to meet a quota, they should be appropriately punished. If there is fraud being perpetrated by a supervisor or higher up, they should also be appropriately punished.
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Just being a liberal or democrat? No. Obama? BIG YES. Since he is anti-America, the only connection is that people for him have self-identified as anti-America. |
You seem to have an odd talent for allowing people to not take you seriously. I’m curiously looking forward to your response if, less than one month from now, over half of voting Americans and/or the Electoral College turn out to be “anti-American”.
Hmm â€Â¦ wouldn’t that, by your supplied definition, make “anti-American” American?
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10/09/2008 11:31:30 AM · #29 |
| I'm beginning to seriously think that Rose has been reborn a man. |
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10/09/2008 11:33:28 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm beginning to seriously think that Rose has been reborn a man. |
Oh stop... |
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10/09/2008 11:37:11 AM · #31 |
| I wonder who Hawkeye's going to vote for? Certainly not Obama, and McCain's apparently not conservative enough for him. At least he agrees that McCain's no maverick. |
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10/09/2008 11:40:53 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by Louis:
I wonder who Hawkeye's going to vote for? Certainly not Obama, and McCain's apparently not conservative enough for him. At least he agrees that McCain's no maverick. |
McCain/Palin There are two viable choices and the one that's best for America is McCain.
Message edited by author 2008-10-09 11:42:21.
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10/09/2008 11:46:32 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Louis:
I wonder who Hawkeye's going to vote for? Certainly not Obama, and McCain's apparently not conservative enough for him. At least he agrees that McCain's no maverick. |
McCain/Palin There are two viable choices and the one that's best for America is McCain. |
That was very troll like of you to post that Hawkeye.
I'm still waiting for your reply to the 1 foreclosure in your area question that at least a half dozen members have asked in another thread, or did you forget that lie?
Here's a hint. Tolkien is fiction, it never really happened. Mixing politics and the eye of Sauron leaves me with the thought that you get the two confused. Hope I cleared that up.
eta, corrected misdirection of my comment. ;]
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10/09/2008 11:47:47 AM · #34 |
| Well, I for one would like to thank Hawkeye for putting a spotlight on the cynical efforts by Republicans to shut down voting registration efforts. |
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10/09/2008 11:50:00 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Louis:
I wonder who Hawkeye's going to vote for? Certainly not Obama, and McCain's apparently not conservative enough for him. At least he agrees that McCain's no maverick. |
McCain/Palin There are two viable choices and the one that's best for America is McCain. |
That was very troll like of you to post that.
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Yeah, what're you gonna do. :P Fight fire with fire and all that. Sometimes the mask slips and the twelve year old shows. (You might want to fix your post because it looks like you're addressing the second part to me.) |
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10/09/2008 11:56:28 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Well, I for one would like to thank Hawkeye for putting a spotlight on the cynical efforts by Republicans to shut down voting registration efforts. |
You dizzy from all that spinning of truth into lie, Rumplestiltskin?
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10/09/2008 12:01:30 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by posthumous:
Well, I for one would like to thank Hawkeye for putting a spotlight on the cynical efforts by Republicans to shut down voting registration efforts. |
You dizzy from all that spinning of truth into lie, Rumplestiltskin? |
Wow, that was the cleverest thing I've ever heard you say. Now I know there's at least one fairy tale you've done some research on. I only hope you start researching the fairy tales you actually believe in. |
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10/09/2008 12:04:23 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Louis:
I wonder who Hawkeye's going to vote for? Certainly not Obama, and McCain's apparently not conservative enough for him. At least he agrees that McCain's no maverick. |
McCain/Palin There are two viable choices and the one that's best for America is McCain. |
That was very troll like of you to post that.
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Yeah, what're you gonna do. :P Fight fire with fire and all that. Sometimes the mask slips and the twelve year old shows. (You might want to fix your post because it looks like you're addressing the second part to me.) |
Sorry Louis, fixed. |
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10/09/2008 12:14:53 PM · #39 |
OK, i'm going to try to get this back on topic, sort of.
I feel that the Republican Party is digging very deeply into history to try to get people to concentrate on old useless facts that are in no way about what a presidential campaign is all about. I can see two mayoral candidates using such tactics but when it comes to the big guys, the pros, it makes them look d e s p e r a t e. It makes them look like they already know they're going to lose in Nov. and are pulling out the last resorts to try to muster up what votes they can get.
I find it sad, as an outsider, to see this degradation of the American electoral system to the point where I can see similarities in how a daytime soap opera is written. I'm pretty sure they have some other nasty Obama historical tidbits to share with us as we approach the big day. I watch snippets of the debates, interviews, and all I get from the pubs is the same rehearsed crap I heard last week and the week before from different members of the party. They all read and memorized the same memos to the letter it would seem and are spewing it to every media that points a mic to their face. It's a show and I fear that many Americans are being duped by the charade.
(the stones are by the door, please start with the small ones, ty) |
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10/09/2008 12:17:00 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Louis:
I wonder who Hawkeye's going to vote for? Certainly not Obama, and McCain's apparently not conservative enough for him. At least he agrees that McCain's no maverick. |
McCain/Palin There are two viable choices and the one that's best for America is McCain. |
That was very troll like of you to post that.
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Yeah, what're you gonna do. :P Fight fire with fire and all that. Sometimes the mask slips and the twelve year old shows. (You might want to fix your post because it looks like you're addressing the second part to me.) |
Sorry Louis, fixed. |
Oh.. Heh.. :) well, it was very troll-like of me to post that, but hey. |
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10/09/2008 12:19:14 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Jac:
OK, i'm going to try to get this back on topic, sort of.
I feel that the Republican Party is digging very deeply into history to try to get people to concentrate on old useless facts that are in no way about what a presidential campaign is all about. I can see two mayoral candidates using such tactics but when it comes to the big guys, the pros, it makes them look d e s p e r a t e. It makes them look like they already know they're going to lose in Nov. and are pulling out the last resorts to try to muster up what votes they can get.
I find it sad, as an outsider, to see this degradation of the American electoral system to the point where I can see similarities in how a daytime soap opera is written. I'm pretty sure they have some other nasty Obama historical tidbits to share with us as we approach the big day. I watch snippets of the debates, interviews, and all I get from the pubs is the same rehearsed crap I heard last week and the week before from different members of the party. They all read and memorized the same memos to the letter it would seem and are spewing it to every media that points a mic to their face. It's a show and I fear that many Americans are being duped by the charade.
(the stones are by the door, please start with the small ones, ty) |
Aside from the fact that the Republicans are making mountains out of not even molehills, they should be very nervous about this same tactic being used against McCain who has a history of poor associations and bad behavior starting from his days at Annapolis and continuing to the present. |
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10/09/2008 12:27:00 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Jac:
OK, i'm going to try to get this back on topic, sort of.
I feel that the Republican Party is digging very deeply into history to try to get people to concentrate on old useless facts that are in no way about what a presidential campaign is all about. I can see two mayoral candidates using such tactics but when it comes to the big guys, the pros, it makes them look d e s p e r a t e. It makes them look like they already know they're going to lose in Nov. and are pulling out the last resorts to try to muster up what votes they can get.
I find it sad, as an outsider, to see this degradation of the American electoral system to the point where I can see similarities in how a daytime soap opera is written. I'm pretty sure they have some other nasty Obama historical tidbits to share with us as we approach the big day. I watch snippets of the debates, interviews, and all I get from the pubs is the same rehearsed crap I heard last week and the week before from different members of the party. They all read and memorized the same memos to the letter it would seem and are spewing it to every media that points a mic to their face. It's a show and I fear that many Americans are being duped by the charade.
(the stones are by the door, please start with the small ones, ty) |
Aside from the fact that the Republicans are making mountains out of not even molehills, they should be very nervous about this same tactic being used against McCain who has a history of poor associations and bad behavior starting from his days at Annapolis and continuing to the present. |
It quite simply has won them a lot of elections, so they lean on it very heavily. I don't know if they even know how to run a different campaign anymore. McCain was losing so he brought in the worst of the worst, because of their track record of winning elections. |
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10/09/2008 12:32:02 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Just turning back scalvert's directing of it at us pro-America folks. |
I was referring to people who would actually believe that "Obama pals around with terrorists" (regardless of their political affiliation or nationalist pride). It's very simple: if Ayers is currently considered a terrorist, then Homeland Security would be breaking down his door. The fact that they're not should make is plainly clear that Ayers is no longer considered a terrorist (instead, he's been offered civic recognition for recent, poisitive contributions to this country). The guy is not exactly secluded, so if he's not being sought by authorities, a person of any reasonable intelligence would have to question whether the depiction of some evil terrorist on par with Bin Laden holds any credibility. Either that, or you'd have to highlight the utter incompetence of a government administration that allows a known terrorist to openly work as professor of a large U.S. university. I was considering the word "uninformed," but in light of the above "idiot" seemed more appropriate. |
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10/09/2008 01:25:42 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Jac:
OK, i'm going to try to get this back on topic, sort of.
I feel that the Republican Party is digging very deeply into history to try to get people to concentrate on old useless facts that are in no way about what a presidential campaign is all about. I can see two mayoral candidates using such tactics but when it comes to the big guys, the pros, it makes them look d e s p e r a t e. It makes them look like they already know they're going to lose in Nov. and are pulling out the last resorts to try to muster up what votes they can get.
I find it sad, as an outsider, to see this degradation of the American electoral system to the point where I can see similarities in how a daytime soap opera is written. I'm pretty sure they have some other nasty Obama historical tidbits to share with us as we approach the big day. I watch snippets of the debates, interviews, and all I get from the pubs is the same rehearsed crap I heard last week and the week before from different members of the party. They all read and memorized the same memos to the letter it would seem and are spewing it to every media that points a mic to their face. It's a show and I fear that many Americans are being duped by the charade.
(the stones are by the door, please start with the small ones, ty) |
So... the CURRENT (not past) fraud of ACORN is not relevant? That's what this thread was about. |
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10/09/2008 01:26:07 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Jac:
OK, i'm going to try to get this back on topic, sort of.
I feel that the Republican Party is digging very deeply into history to try to get people to concentrate on old useless facts that are in no way about what a presidential campaign is all about. I can see two mayoral candidates using such tactics but when it comes to the big guys, the pros, it makes them look d e s p e r a t e. It makes them look like they already know they're going to lose in Nov. and are pulling out the last resorts to try to muster up what votes they can get.
I find it sad, as an outsider, to see this degradation of the American electoral system to the point where I can see similarities in how a daytime soap opera is written. I'm pretty sure they have some other nasty Obama historical tidbits to share with us as we approach the big day. I watch snippets of the debates, interviews, and all I get from the pubs is the same rehearsed crap I heard last week and the week before from different members of the party. They all read and memorized the same memos to the letter it would seem and are spewing it to every media that points a mic to their face. It's a show and I fear that many Americans are being duped by the charade.
(the stones are by the door, please start with the small ones, ty) |
Aside from the fact that the Republicans are making mountains out of not even molehills, they should be very nervous about this same tactic being used against McCain who has a history of poor associations and bad behavior starting from his days at Annapolis and continuing to the present. |
FRAUD is a MOUNTAIN. |
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10/09/2008 01:26:54 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Just turning back scalvert's directing of it at us pro-America folks. |
I was referring to people who would actually believe that "Obama pals around with terrorists" (regardless of their political affiliation or nationalist pride). It's very simple: if Ayers is currently considered a terrorist, then Homeland Security would be breaking down his door. The fact that they're not should make is plainly clear that Ayers is no longer considered a terrorist (instead, he's been offered civic recognition for recent, poisitive contributions to this country). The guy is not exactly secluded, so if he's not being sought by authorities, a person of any reasonable intelligence would have to question whether the depiction of some evil terrorist on par with Bin Laden holds any credibility. Either that, or you'd have to highlight the utter incompetence of a government administration that allows a known terrorist to openly work as professor of a large U.S. university. I was considering the word "uninformed," but in light of the above "idiot" seemed more appropriate. |
He is not currently engaging in terrorist activities. He IS currently unrepentent and unreformed about his prior acts. |
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10/09/2008 01:44:23 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He is not currently engaging in terrorist activities. He IS currently unrepentent and unreformed about his prior acts. |
Ah, so he's NOT a terrorist, but he WAS. Unrepentant perhaps, but if he was unreformed he'd still be bombing. We could also say with equal truth that McCain is (hopefully) not currently engaged in adultery, destroying millions of dollars in American military hardware, excessive pork barrel spending, alcoholic binges, accepting gifts from corrupt banking CEOs, revealing military secrets to our enemies in time of war, and lying to the public. This is not someone with a shady past that he met a few times, but the man himself! |
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10/09/2008 01:54:32 PM · #48 |
LOL
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm beginning to seriously think that Rose has been reborn a man. |
Oh stop... |
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10/09/2008 02:17:02 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He is not currently engaging in terrorist activities. |
The stupidity of the mob mentality. |
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10/09/2008 02:18:13 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He is not currently engaging in terrorist activities. He IS currently unrepentent and unreformed about his prior acts. |
Ah, so he's NOT a terrorist, but he WAS. Unrepentant perhaps, but if he was unreformed he'd still be bombing. We could also say with equal truth that McCain is (hopefully) not currently engaged in adultery, destroying millions of dollars in American military hardware, excessive pork barrel spending, alcoholic binges, accepting gifts from corrupt banking CEOs, revealing military secrets to our enemies in time of war, and lying to the public. This is not someone with a shady past that he met a few times, but the man himself! |
That's not to mention McCain associating with racists and even KKK members.
Or the fact that he graduated 5th from the bottom in his class at Annapolis and the only reason he graduated at all was the fact that he's the son and grandson of two of the Navy's finest admirals.
Or his well documented mysogynist attitudes...
Message edited by author 2008-10-09 15:51:02. |
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