Hardly WORK and show your SCORES!

10/08/2008 10:54:21 AM · #26

Originally posted by mbrutus2009:

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BROWN HERE I COME!!! >_<

Nuh uh... I'll beat you to it ;-)

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10/08/2008 11:16:52 AM · #27

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Well, I may not get the brown (but, who knows...voting ain't over yet). However, I so agree with whomever said that the early low votes are getting really old, really fast now!

Anyone else notice that there seems to be something wonky/strange going on with voting in here lately? I don't know about any of you but, I feel that there is something very weird as to how the scores and the voting is going. There seems to be an inordinate amount of very low scores lately and then, we have those that are very high.

From what I'm hearing in terms of another conversation in another thread, only those with phenominal technical knowledge and skills are going to be able to compete well/ribbon. I'm noticing that the cleverest of ideas is not going to gain the higher scores. A shoehorned entry that is technically perfect is what is going to get the higher votes.

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

10/08/2008 11:43:48 AM · #28

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yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

10/08/2008 11:49:48 AM · #29

Originally posted by PhotoInterest:

From what I'm hearing in terms of another conversation in another thread, only those with phenominal technical knowledge and skills are going to be able to compete well/ribbon. I'm noticing that the cleverest of ideas is not going to gain the higher scores. A shoehorned entry that is technically perfect is what is going to get the higher votes.

I'll have to disagree with you. What still wins or scores high 99% of the time are the photos with good technicals AND meets the challenge in the most obvious and most cliche ways possible.

ETA:

Basically voters treat the challenges as if they are at a stock site such as iStockPhoto or Shutterstock doing a search for the challenge theme. So for example, if the challenge theme is "Anger" then they look through the challenge for photos that scream anger the loudest and score those higher. Unless those photos are so poorly shot they always stand a great chance of at least finishing in the top ten even if they have zero appeal otherwise. It is why many ribbon winners often don't have the most favorites in a challenge even though they get way more exposure being on the front page. Once the challenge is over their appeal fades because it was all based on conveying a topic. Unless you aspire to being a successful stock photographer you don't want to go down or stay on this path for too long.

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MacDonald

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

10/08/2008 11:51:16 AM · #30

Well, it came up from the first 2 votes for sure...which is a good thing - but it sure takes the fun out of it

when the first votes are so dismal. But, there are some lovely shots in this challenge and I will have fun

voting on them and leaving decent scores that reflect the effort and creativity involved.

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Nikon AF-S DX 18-105 f/3.5-5.6 ED VR

10/08/2008 01:32:10 PM · #31

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by PhotoInterest:

From what I'm hearing in terms of another conversation in another thread, only those with phenominal technical knowledge and skills are going to be able to compete well/ribbon. I'm noticing that the cleverest of ideas is not going to gain the higher scores. A shoehorned entry that is technically perfect is what is going to get the higher votes.

I'll have to disagree with you. What still wins or scores high 99% of the time are the photos with good technicals AND meets the challenge in the most obvious and most cliche ways possible.

ETA:

Basically voters treat the challenges as if they are at a stock site such as iStockPhoto or Shutterstock doing a search for the challenge theme. So for example, if the challenge theme is "Anger" then they look through the challenge for photos that scream anger the loudest and score those higher. Unless those photos are so poorly shot they always stand a great chance of at least finishing in the top ten even if they have zero appeal otherwise. It is why many ribbon winners often don't have the most favorites in a challenge even though they get way more exposure being on the front page. Once the challenge is over their appeal fades because it was all based on conveying a topic. Unless you aspire to being a successful stock photographer you don't want to go down or stay on this path for too long.

I so agree with you on the point that the higher score voters do search the entries in any challenge for photos that scream stock shot. There's no doubt there. Where I have a disagreeance with your points is in the idea that these types of voters will allow "shoe horns" into mind and score them high IF they even remotely convey the challenge topic but, have that "look" to them. A case in point is one of the ribbons in the pyjama challenge. No doubt, it's a goregeous shot and extremely well done. However, the interpretation of pyjamas was not really as clear a focal point of that shot. It was a very beautiful and technically well done shot but, it really did not convey the subject of pyjamas as clearly as a lot of other very well done shots in that challenge. It simply had that "look" that DPC voters tend to go for.

I do so agree that one doesn't want to stick within that realm of stock photopgraphy as one can lose their sense of style and artistic flair quite readily and be stuck within the world of stock photographer which doesn't really bode well for other arenas within the photographic world. However, you have also made an excellent point in this by saying that. The more ribbons one amasses in here, the more "pegged" one can become into the stock world and the less able one may be to be able to please other types of audiences within the photographic world.

Excellent points and well said. It surely speaks to those of us who are consistently scoring within the 5 ranges in here. My shots that have not done well in here, have done wonderfully in other areas and sites where stock photography does not bode well. Which raises another point...for those of us who are not aiming for stock photography excellence, aiming for a ribbon in DPc is kind of like wanting to be able to shout in a library. We're always going to be hushed! ;)

fededecba

Nikon D7000

10/08/2008 01:55:29 PM · #32

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mrjswift

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10/08/2008 02:54:33 PM · #33

We just have to take better photos, I guess. My scores are low too. We just have to come up with creative ideas for a picture that portrays the subject of the challenge the best.

Half of a photo is the actual lighting, sharpness, framing, and composure. The other half of a photo is the creativity that really makes your photo stand our from the rest.

JB

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10/08/2008 03:28:33 PM · #34

Still voting at the moment and commenting on every image - Have to say there are a lot of images let down with poor composition in this challenge. A couple as in every challenge really stand out and I think we know who the winners will be!
Good luck to all

MacDonald

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

10/08/2008 03:43:32 PM · #35

Still hanging about average for me... which is all my shot deserves... got your comment Jeff and I agree with it .. thanks for taking the time and for being honest.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

10/08/2008 03:57:35 PM · #36

No Worries - Just glad it is correct and hopefully helpful.
Cheers
Jeff

Purple_Girl

Canon EOS-1100D

10/08/2008 04:19:05 PM · #37

No-one wants to tell me why my shot sucks.

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10/08/2008 04:42:54 PM · #38

Well i commented on everyone - A few really stand out to me in this challenge. Good luck all....
Lady Tara I remember commenting on yours and what i thought.

Stats: You have rated 135 of 136 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 135 images (99%) in this challenge.

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10/08/2008 04:54:30 PM · #39

Originally posted by LadyTara:

No-one wants to tell me why my shot sucks.

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Mine sux more:-)

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Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

10/08/2008 04:55:07 PM · #40

Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:

Thank you for your comment.

dswann

Nikon D7000

10/08/2008 06:32:27 PM · #41

Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:

Thanks for your honest comment on my entry. I'm new to photography and this site, so feedback such as yours really helps.

Purple_Girl

Canon EOS-1100D

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

10/08/2008 06:36:53 PM · #42

Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:

Well i commented on everyone - A few really stand out to me in this challenge. Good luck all....
Lady Tara I remember commenting on yours and what i thought.

Yep, thanks!

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

10/08/2008 06:49:41 PM · #43

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Working for minimum wage. :P

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

10/08/2008 08:16:46 PM · #44

Ouch!

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hihosilver

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10/08/2008 09:00:43 PM · #45

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Homeless Bum...

10/08/2008 09:00:54 PM · #46

[quote=Prash No-one wants to tell me why my shot sucks.

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Tell me which one is your shot and I'll tell you! ;)

Just kidding, I'm in amongst the "shot sucks ranks" too.
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I'm moving to Iceland.

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Oded

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10/09/2008 01:21:15 AM · #47

Originally posted by PhotoInterest:

[quote=Prash No-one wants to tell me why my shot sucks.

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Tell me which one is your shot and I'll tell you! ;)

Just kidding, I'm in amongst the "shot sucks ranks" too.
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I'm moving to Iceland. [/quote]

they tell me (why i suck not why you suck)

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Tamron 16-300mm Di II VC PZD MACRO w/Canon Nikon mount

10/09/2008 10:19:39 AM · #48

Originally posted by Oded:

Originally posted by PhotoInterest:
[quote=Prash No-one wants to tell me why my shot sucks.

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Tell me which one is your shot and I'll tell you! ;)

Just kidding, I'm in amongst the "shot sucks ranks" too.
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I'm moving to Iceland.

they tell me (why i suck not why you suck)

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LOL.......that's what I was saying originally....tell me which shot is YOURS and I'll tell you why YOU suck! ;)

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JulietNN

Canon EOS R7

10/09/2008 10:31:21 AM · #49

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;;;;;;;;sigh;;;;;;;;;;; gotta change jobs