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09/25/2008 01:32:43 PM · #26 |
| Obama wouldn't have been my first choice but McCain would be pretty close to my last (just ahead of Bush, of course). |
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09/25/2008 01:32:49 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by cutout:
are you guys serious
you sound like a bunch of fascist to me |
I think that's Hawkeye you're talking about. |
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09/25/2008 01:36:47 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Jac:
People respected the US because of its fight against dictators, unlawful governments, and its protection of anyone seeking freedom or a better life. |
And that's exactly what we did, jac. Stand up to a dicatator. We liberated Iraqi's who were seeking freedom. |
You really believe that we "liberated" Iraqi's??? How would you like to be living their "freedom"?
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09/25/2008 01:38:03 PM · #29 |
well, isn't this a wasted conversation as McCain has 'suspended' his campaign.....
now thats a joke!!
I think that we are in trouble no matter what.
People didn't like Hillary....but Palin is just too power hungry...and her Pro-life views would not get my vote if it meant saving my life! |
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09/25/2008 01:38:20 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by Jac:
People respected the US because of its fight against dictators, unlawful governments, and its protection of anyone seeking freedom or a better life. |
And that's exactly what we did, jac. Stand up to a dicatator. We liberated Iraqi's who were seeking freedom. |
All for the wrong reasons. I stopped talking about Iraq but I'll say this though since you brought it up. How free are the Iraqis today? Would you agree with me that in pre-invasion Iraq, any ordinary citizen could walk the streets of Baghdad without fear of dying when in today's Iraq that is a luxury few people have? How many bombs were ignited in markets when Saddam was dictator? Let's poll common Iraqis on the issue? Let's see how they feel about their new found freedom.
eta corrected punctuation
Message edited by author 2008-09-25 13:39:46. |
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09/25/2008 01:46:45 PM · #31 |
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09/25/2008 01:48:55 PM · #32 |
Iraq isn't the only country that was run by a dictator. Is the US administration going to interfere in all the others as well? Probably not, most of those other countries don't have any oil.
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09/25/2008 01:51:22 PM · #33 |
And we've made it better... How???
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09/25/2008 01:55:12 PM · #34 |
Yet the US stood by and watched as 800,000 (give or take a few 100K) Tutsis were slaughtered with machetes in Rwanda. No oil in Rwanda though.
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09/25/2008 02:10:24 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Jac:
... Let's poll common Iraqis on the issue? Let's see how they feel about their new found freedom. |
There are quite a few polls out there already, taken by numerous organizations and political interests. Honestly, I wanted to find some that supported the position that Iraqi's were happier/better off after Saddam was removed from power. The range of polls supported positions from both sides kinda. Seems that in the earlier polls the majority of Iraqi's felt they were safer and better off (glad to have Saddam gone). More recent polls suggest that Iraqi's are tired of the US presence and don't feel safer/better off. Search them, read them as you will...like I said, you can probably find argument to support multiple positions.
One recent article I did find to be a worthy read is this one (read the whole thing - it's a mixed bag) --> Iraqi Public Opinion on the Presence of US Troops |
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09/25/2008 02:30:27 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
And our 8 years of doing the right thing in spite of liberal world opinion does not give us a black eye. |
It won't give you anything. It'll merely take away your status on the world stage and remove the "super" from your "superpower" designation. |
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09/25/2008 03:06:27 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
We liberated Iraqi's who were seeking freedom. |
Liberated their heads from their shoulders in most cases.
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09/25/2008 04:30:55 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by jeger:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Thank God and the Constitution the world doesn't get a say in our elections. |
And how was electing George Bush for a second term a good choice? :P |
Well, for starters it protected us from having President John Kerry. Egads! |
That would be John Kerry the war hero, as compared to George Bush the (occasional) pilot-trainee? The same George Bush who brought us an unnecessary war, tax cuts for billionaires along with an additional 4-6 trillion in deficits, and whose policies of rampant deregulation brought us the current little financial mess? |
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09/25/2008 04:47:39 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by ralph:
from outside the US
seeing a change is very important right now
you had 8 years of bush which gave you a black eye
McCain would have the same turkeys running the show & Palin is a joke
Obama would be a change & Biden makes a ok #2
given how fraked up the US is right now
if McCain died in office would you want a Presidnet Palin ?
if Obama died in Office would you want a President Biden .?? |
No
No |
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09/25/2008 04:51:26 PM · #40 |
I'm a Non-American.... What was the question? Oh... Where is America?
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09/25/2008 04:53:08 PM · #41 |
So just for fun... and possibly to the intent of the OP... and because we know what most of the American DPC's think... thanks to many other threads... why don't we leave some space in the thread for the non-American oppinons that the OP was looking for...
Message edited by author 2008-09-25 16:53:44. |
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09/25/2008 05:07:25 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by heavyj:
Would you rather see McCain or Obama as president? While it might not affect you as directly as it will the American people, it does affect some non-Americans as well. Just curious as to what the rest of the world thinks of the 2 possible new Presidents (And their VP choices). I'm not looking to start a debate, just wondering what the rest of the globe thinks. |
absolutey Obama! he could be something of new respect the bush administration. on the vp I think that their haven't a great importance. |
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09/25/2008 05:40:48 PM · #43 |
Neither. Your elections looks more like "Idols" than a serious democratic political process. I don't see serious political debate. Instead empty one-liners, smack talking. It is a show, the candidates are like bad actors, but that is what seems to work nowadays.
I even think your whole political system sucks, from the strong presidential position, the two party system (polarized views) to the election process itself even.
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09/25/2008 05:42:33 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by jeger:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Thank God and the Constitution the world doesn't get a say in our elections. |
And how was electing George Bush for a second term a good choice? :P |
Well, for starters it protected us from having President John Kerry. Egads! |
That would be John Kerry the war hero, as compared to George Bush the (occasional) pilot-trainee? The same George Bush who brought us an unnecessary war, tax cuts for billionaires along with an additional 4-6 trillion in deficits, and whose policies of rampant deregulation brought us the current little financial mess? |
The same George Bush who bankrupted all his oil companies and now bankrupted your nation. You could have seen that coming.
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09/25/2008 06:09:55 PM · #45 |
Agreed
Originally posted by timfythetoo:
Originally posted by amathiasphoto:
I guess arrogance and ignorance just comes naturally for those staunch conservatives. |
Now you must understand that this is not relegated to "staunch conservatives". Arrogance and ignorance crosses all party lines. All depends on the individual. |
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09/25/2008 06:13:04 PM · #46 |
Well either you do not understand the way our system works "IE who is responsiblefor the economy" or you just are another bush hater. Congress is responsible for the oversight of the banking regulations in this country. Congress "both parties" failed. The Bush administration warned them repeatedly to do something about the subprime market before it was too late. This has been a problem for over 30 years also not something that sprung up overnight. Did we all forget the Savings and loan crisis of the 90's?
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by jeger:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Thank God and the Constitution the world doesn't get a say in our elections. |
And how was electing George Bush for a second term a good choice? :P |
Well, for starters it protected us from having President John Kerry. Egads! |
That would be John Kerry the war hero, as compared to George Bush the (occasional) pilot-trainee? The same George Bush who brought us an unnecessary war, tax cuts for billionaires along with an additional 4-6 trillion in deficits, and whose policies of rampant deregulation brought us the current little financial mess? |
The same George Bush who bankrupted all his oil companies and now bankrupted your nation. You could have seen that coming. |
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09/25/2008 06:19:23 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by coronamv:
Well either you do not understand the way our system works "IE who is responsiblefor the economy" or you just are another bush hater. Congress is responsible for the oversight of the banking regulations in this country. Congress "both parties" failed. The Bush administration warned them repeatedly to do something about the subprime market before it was too late. This has been a problem for over 30 years also not something that sprung up overnight. Did we all forget the Savings and loan crisis of the 90's? |
It is more about the huge government debt that he already created before this banking mess surfaced. So you have a government that is already in deep shit with its spending, having to pay fortunes on interest alone and now is going to have to find another 700 billion (they don't say to loud that this is only a start) extra. Which they could have payed out of their own pockets had they not overspent so much the last 8 years.
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09/29/2008 01:47:44 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by dassilem:
...but Palin is just too power hungry...and her Pro-life views would not get my vote if it meant saving my life! |
Her prolife views are intended to save "someones" life - even if you personally think that that person is a non-person and not worth saving. Or to put it bluntly - worth killing. |
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09/29/2008 01:55:47 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by heavyj:
Would you rather see McCain or Obama as president? While it might not affect you as directly as it will the American people, it does affect some non-Americans as well. Just curious as to what the rest of the world thinks of the 2 possible new Presidents (And their VP choices). I'm not looking to start a debate, just wondering what the rest of the globe thinks. |
The foriegn doctors at the local hospital speak openly about how the US will make a terrible mistake if Obama is elected. But what do they know. |
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09/29/2008 02:04:17 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by Flash:
Originally posted by dassilem:
...but Palin is just too power hungry...and her Pro-life views would not get my vote if it meant saving my life! |
Her prolife views are intended to save "someones" life - even if you personally think that that person is a non-person and not worth saving. Or to put it bluntly - worth killing. |
So I suppose she must be adamantly opposed to capital punishment as well ... |
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