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08/10/2008 04:07:14 PM · #1 |
For those who inhabit these subjects in the Rant forums, there is a survey being conducted that may be of interest. By completing the survey you'll get a copy of the report (which could be interesting).
//www.evolutionsurvey.com
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08/10/2008 04:11:52 PM · #2 |
hmmmm, 1001 characters. gonna be a challenge for some of you.
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08/12/2008 03:30:12 AM · #3 |
| I'm in. Can't wait to see what the report says. |
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08/12/2008 03:40:40 AM · #4 |
| Cool, filled out and submitted. |
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08/12/2008 05:17:00 PM · #5 |
I needed a little more space, but this is what I came up with:
To the best of your understanding, and in your own words, please explain what âevolutionâ means.
I understand biological evolution to simply mean the change in frequency of alleles in a population over time. During reproduction, mistakes(mutations) occur in the genetic sequence of an offspring compared to its parent(s). Most mutations are neutral, having no observable effect on the offspring within its environment. Some are deleterious, having a negative effect on an individual in its environment. A small number of mutations are thought to be beneficial, giving its owner an âedgeâ for survival and/or reproductive success within its environment. Since more individual are born than can survive in an environment given limited resources, individuals which are better adapted to survive and breed in such a competitive environments are more likely to do so. If a population become reproductively isolated from its parent population, over time the two populations will likely diverge to better adapt in an evolutionary âarms raceâ with their local environments, becoming distinct species.
Got it to come out to 1,001 characters exactly!
If you accept the theory of evolution, please explain in your own words why; or if you do not accept the theory of evolution, please explain in your own words why not.
I accept the scientific method as the most reliable way of understanding the physical universe in which we live. The theory of evolution is a product of observation, testing and deductive reasoning, is falsifiable and can and has been used to predict future discoveries. Simply, I accept the theory of evolution because I accept the scientific method. However, saying that, I bear in mind that all scientific theories are tentative and subject to revision based upon new evidence. As our technology progresses, so do our methods of measurement. If a new discovery verifiably conflicts with the current theory, then the old theory must change to incorporate the new information or, if a new alternative theory better explains all of the available information, the better alternative theory must be adopted in place of the old theory. |
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08/12/2008 05:24:41 PM · #6 |
| I was going to fill it out but I wanted to read over it first. With the definition of God supplied (a purposeful higher intelligence that created the universe), I couldn't answer yes but I couldn't answer no so I figured I just better not answer at all... |
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08/13/2008 12:43:43 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by dahkota:
I was going to fill it out but I wanted to read over it first. With the definition of God supplied (a purposeful higher intelligence that created the universe), I couldn't answer yes but I couldn't answer no so I figured I just better not answer at all... |
That's interesting - what would your definition of God be dahkota? |
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08/13/2008 01:00:22 PM · #8 |
| my god didn't create the universe. my god is the universe. |
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08/19/2008 03:44:33 AM · #9 |
1: As I understand evolution, there are two varieties. The first is microevolution. This is what Darwin observed as he was making observations in his research. It refers to change within a species. Microevolution has been scientifically proven in many animals and other organisms, including viruses and bacteria ("superbugs" are a product of microevolution). The second type is macroevolution. This is commonly known as "The Theory of Evolution" and refers to change between two or more species. According to most modern scientists, life on earth as we know it today came about through macroevolution across billions of years.
2: The main basis for the Theory of Evolution is based on the logical fallacy of composition: namely, that since evolution happens on a small scale (microevolution), then it must happen on a larger scale (macroevolution). As far as I've been able to understand the Theory of Evolution, most proofs consist of holding up an example of microevolution and relating it to a supposed occurrence in macroevolution. (A good example of this is Darwin's research; he noted how natural selection played out in the Galapagos Islands within various species and decided that the species in the world today came about from an infinite series of tiny changes, starting from one original species and then branching out.) I cannot accept a theory based solely upon this logical fallacy, and therefore I cannot accept the Theory of Evolution.
Not liking the religious/political questions: sounds like a survey that's going to be all like "SEE!!! Christians and conservatives are stupid!!!" Hence, no mention of religion in my answers :)
Also, not sure what to put for "On the question of the origin and development of life and humans, what do you believe?" My beliefs are somewhere between the first and second answers. (God created the first spark of life and lovingly guided the process of evolution, then created Adam from earth as the crowning glory of creation.)
Message edited by author 2008-08-19 03:46:46. |
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08/19/2008 04:50:37 AM · #10 |
Thank you dahkota, I'm not sure if you posted that as a joke or seriously but it doesn't matter to me. Your link looks like it may be invaluable to understanding my own faith and may have finally given me a name for it. Thank you again. |
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08/19/2008 05:18:40 AM · #11 |
this might provide an interesting alternative view towards the topic of evolution, and even religion itself. its highly unorthodox, so readers are advised to keep an open mind when reading the short summary. i've read it, and intend to read the full book very soon - can never get enough of knowledge, but believing in which part of what you learned, you should decide yourself.
edit to add: the portion that relate more specifically to evolution starts at "The Custodial Creators"
Message edited by author 2008-08-19 05:20:38. |
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08/19/2008 07:25:28 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by crayon:
[url=//www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/godsofeden/index.htm]this might provide an interesting alternative view ... |
At last - someone has managed to use ancient Sumerian legends together the writings of remote Christian sects, the Freemasons, and the Ancient Egyptians, tracing them through history with a focus on their impact on Nazi Germany to expose the lies of the modern church. They have managed to resolve that age old conflict between ancient Sumerian holy texts that refer to "Gods" and the bible's singular "God".
The author of the summary manages a masterful critical deconstruction of why evolution cannot be the answer: "The theory of Evolution doesn't give an acceptable conclusion for me either".
Please do let me know how you find the whole book...
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