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08/06/2008 03:55:26 PM · #1 |
Okay, I finally found a printing lab that meets my needs locally. They provide a printer ICC for their matte and glossy finish.
I understand that I shouldn't embed profiles, instead use convert. As many know that Frontier, Noritsu, and Agfa ignore embedded profiles anyways. And so does windows default picture viewer as well. CaptureNX, PS, and firefox see it all the same except for software that IGNORES the profiles looks like ass.
So here's my question...
If the printers IGNORES the profile then is it going to look more like windows default view or like CaptureNX, PS, and firefox? |
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08/06/2008 04:23:37 PM · #2 |
| Best bet is to talk to the lab and ask them what profile your image should be in when you send it. |
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08/06/2008 04:36:22 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Best bet is to talk to the lab and ask them what profile your image should be in when you send it. |
I agree completely. I found a "local" lab so that I would be able to go in and talk to them when necessary. They told me what profile they wanted me to produce the image in, then, for the first image we tried that way, they provided me with a hard copy proof to be sure that the color profile worked for what I wanted. Once I settled on that profile, all images produced that way have been perfect. |
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08/06/2008 06:30:51 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by ben4345:
...CaptureNX, PS, and firefox? |
And don't forget Safari (before Firefox).
Usually the profile should be sRGB or Adobe RGB. More than likely sRGB is your best bet since Frontiers were built around that space.
One company (trying to find it) put it this way (not direct quote). Any printers that give out there profile for people to embed for printing, does not know what they are doing. The printers need to be calibrated daily and sometimes more.
Here is something to read
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08/06/2008 06:41:13 PM · #5 |
| FWIW Costco uses and provides profiles from Dry Creek Photo (see link in previous post), and I've always been pretty happy with the results I've gotten. My images come from the camera in sRGB and I don't change anything ... |
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08/06/2008 06:52:32 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
FWIW Costco uses and provides profiles from Dry Creek Photo (see link in previous post), and I've always been pretty happy with the results I've gotten. My images come from the camera in sRGB and I don't change anything ... |
The lab I found does too!
I am trying to find out if the profiles they give are ONLY to use as "soft proofing" and whether or not to be converted. |
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08/06/2008 06:54:23 PM · #7 |
| I don't actually (knowingly) use any profiles -- either I'm lucky or tolerant or both ... |
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08/06/2008 07:09:55 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Any printers that give out there profile for people to embed for printing, does not know what they are doing. The printers need to be calibrated daily and sometimes more. |
I completely agree with this statement. The photo store I worked in had its own lab. That machine was balanced and calibrated twice per day. Our Noritsu tech used to tell us that we had the most accurate machine he had ever seen. He said most of the pro labs (we were a consumer lab) he dealt with had to have a "major" recalibration and balancing done when he went in every month. He'd come into our lab, run software updates make sure everything worked the way it was supposed to and leave- most times he was in and out in thirty minutes. We had people all the time come in and tell us "I saved it with this color profile." We'd nod our heads and send it back to the lab. Our lab manager never used a color profile. When the people would come back in they'd always show the photo to a buddy (when they came in with a buddy) and say "See, this is why I always do my own color adjustments." The Wal-Mart lab was always giving out color and paper profiles for people to use, and it always looked cruddy when it came out their machine.
We had one pro drive us nuts by wanting to install his "custom" color profile on the machine. Finally my manager told him, "Let me tell you something, the only color profile we use is named Kyle"- our lab guy.
edit to add...the reason we calibrated twice a day, well two reasons: 1) our labbies were anal as hell. 2) We ran 200 rolls of film per day, plus enlargments, reprints, digital etc. The machine tended to heat up through the course of the day and this would tweak the color a little, so they calibrated the machine about 30 minutes after "waking it up." Then around 1:30 they'd calibrate again as most of our work came in between 10:00 and 11:00 so the machine was really humming at that point. Some summers we ran nearly 300 rolls per day, it was nuts.
Message edited by author 2008-08-06 19:21:37.
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