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04/01/2004 09:24:32 PM · #1 |
I know that this is not supposed to happen, but like all things in life, things do not always go according to plan. If an image seems a little "borderline", to the fact where generally one would not think it does not fit under the rules, does the score generally get set down. I have a image I am proud of and that I worked my butt off to do for Chaos, but I am worried that the image, although obviously "worked on", will get its score degraded due to the fact that it doesnt necessarily look "real"...
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04/01/2004 09:26:20 PM · #2 |
| Have it validated by the SC in advance of the challenge. |
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04/01/2004 09:28:37 PM · #3 |
Also, keep in mind if it looks more like "digital art" and does not keep the "photographic integrity" it will probably score lower.
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04/01/2004 09:28:50 PM · #4 |
There is a faction here that will not grade as highly if an image does not look "photographic". This imagefrom the Magazine Cover challenge:
is a perfect example, IMO, of an image that deserved a much better score, but got caught in the "not pohtography" trap.
Edit:
This image...
is a better example. There is no way in heck it deserved a 4.19, but what do I know?
Message edited by author 2004-04-01 21:44:29.
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04/01/2004 09:29:52 PM · #5 |
Some people do vote down images that look obviously manipulated, especially if it breaks 'photographic intergrity'. Mostly manipulations that make the image look like digital art by use of photoshop filters, inverted colors, turning people green etc as opposed to just dodging and burning some areas.
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04/01/2004 09:39:11 PM · #6 |
Well as you can guess in the Chaos challenge, its a little bit "extreme" but with "photographic integrity" along with intent kept in mind. Anyone know how I can contact the council to do such a thing?
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04/01/2004 09:48:43 PM · #7 |
This thread talks about why you should/shouldnt get your photo validated by the SC. I assume if you did need to contact them then the 'contact' under the 'help' menu at the top is probably the best way.
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04/01/2004 11:30:03 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
There is a faction here that will not grade as highly if an image does not look "photographic". This imagefrom the Magazine Cover challenge:
is a perfect example, IMO, of an image that deserved a much better score, but got caught in the "not pohtography" trap.
Edit:
This image...
is a better example. There is no way in heck it deserved a 4.19, but what do I know? |
Interesting that the entrant only checked as helpful the comments fawning his image. the comments that are actually critical (and therefore helpful and constructive) went unchecked.
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04/01/2004 11:37:09 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by bestagents:
Interesting that the entrant only checked as helpful the comments fawning his image. the comments that are actually critical (and therefore helpful and constructive) went unchecked.
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Uh, I don't see that. In the top example, the photographer checked ALL comments helpful, and in the bottom example, about half that are checked helpful suggest ways to improve or are critical in some way.
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04/02/2004 12:44:15 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
There is a faction here that will not grade as highly if an image does not look "photographic". This imagefrom the Magazine Cover challenge:
is a perfect example, IMO, of an image that deserved a much better score, but got caught in the "not pohtography" trap.
Edit:
This image...
is a better example. There is no way in heck it deserved a 4.19, but what do I know? |
Two good examples of why IMHO the rules should not have been relaxed so much!
Slam me if ya want I don't care anymore!
Message edited by author 2004-04-02 00:45:19. |
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04/02/2004 12:49:37 AM · #11 |
No Slam, you're entitled to an opinion.
Hust want to point out that the second image WOULd be legal in basic editing, it is just color-inverted.
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04/02/2004 01:16:01 AM · #12 |
I have a problem with 'photographic integrity.' Does this imply that some kind of 'reality' is communicated with an image that has been only slightly manipulated? I find that the communication of 'reality' of many photographic subjects is enhanced by making the image look NOT like a photo. For example, if communicating how something FEELS, rather than how it looks, it might be appropriate to do all kinds of things to conjure those feelings in your viewers.
For example in this shot:
The original photo in no way communicated the emotions I felt while shooting these stones. I took many, many shots of this stone grouping, but I finally ended up doing some dodging, adding a little mist, and fiddling with the contrast to get the 'real' reality that the camera was not able to capture.
But yeah, many voters will vote such a shot down a bit. But as long as it's expected, you (or I) won't be too surprised.
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