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09/12/2008 08:36:56 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by hardhhhat:
I always get a checker who is having a bad day as I haven't been able to get 7 out of 10 yet - usually 6 - typical. |
Sort of like trying to hit the broad appeal target on this site. Everyone has a different opinion of the same things.
I submitted two more last night. It does seem that once 1 of the 3 is approved, it stays that way and I then only have to get two ore passed. I used my high scoring glassmaking shot and one of the aircraft shots that I thought had little wrong with it. DPC has been good training for this. |
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09/12/2008 10:36:24 PM · #52 |
| Well, I passed on the second go 'round. Now onward to the anticipated thrill of my first sale! |
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09/13/2008 09:03:52 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
Well, I passed on the second go 'round. Now onward to the anticipated thrill of my first sale! |
Congrats, Steve. It's almost as addictive as the update button. |
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09/13/2008 10:29:52 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
Well, I passed on the second go 'round. Now onward to the anticipated thrill of my first sale! |
Good for you Steve. I hope to be there shortly. |
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09/13/2008 11:26:51 AM · #55 |
I posted 10 to shutterstock and 9 were approved yesterday, had one sale overnight so I'm quite stunned actually - but unfortunately I do not seem to be able to get approved at iStock, 2 out of the first 3 were approved, I waited 3 days submitted a photo I thought was better than the first two that were approved and that was rejected - so I need to work on a new one just for there as I have to wait 7 days now before I can resubmit the next try... grrr
Ah well more stock type photography now for the next few months and try to build a nice sized portfolio :) |
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09/13/2008 11:42:34 AM · #56 |
Perhaps someone could share some details on what kind of money can be made IE how much do you get paid if your shot sells?
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09/13/2008 12:04:23 PM · #57 |
| On the microstock sites it's pennies per sale (mine was just $0.25) but as stated throughout this thread it's the bigger picture you really need to look at, a single shot could sell many times over. |
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09/13/2008 12:05:28 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by jhomrighaus:
Perhaps someone could share some details on what kind of money can be made IE how much do you get paid if your shot sells? |
.30¢ :)
ok .25¢ then. But it grows as you sell more and more images.
Message edited by author 2008-09-13 12:07:11. |
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09/13/2008 12:11:50 PM · #59 |
| While .25 might be the norm, there are lots of exceptions. I've sold a few at $20, so my commission on those was $6.60. My average commission on a sale at Fotolia is $1.32. I do have to say I'm not happy with the recent set up of "subscription" sales. |
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09/13/2008 12:12:27 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by jhomrighaus:
Perhaps someone could share some details on what kind of money can be made IE how much do you get paid if your shot sells? |
copied from Istock FAQ:
iStockphoto works on a micro-payment system which allows you to purchase images in quantity. You pre-purchase a package of credits and then redeem the credits for images. Images cost between 1 and 20 credits per download depending on the file type and image resolution.
Credits Price Price Per Credit
10 $14.00 $1.40
26 $35.00 $1.35
50 $65.00 $1.30
120 $150.00 $1.25
250 $300.00 $1.20
300 $345.00 $1.15
600 $660.00 $1.10
1000 $1,050.00 $1.05
1500 $1,500.00 $1.00
2000 $1,900.00 $0.95
The royalty structure on iStockphoto is 20%. If you̢۪re eligible for exclusivity, you can make up to 40%.
So, it depends on a few variables. Looking at a photo they show int he most popular list, it sells for 5 credits in the large size. If the credits were purchased at $1, then the photog would make a dollar off that sale. Not a huge amount, per pic, but you are selling a lot more of them. I'll have a better idea once some of my pics start selling. I uploaded 3 last night and it may be a couple of days till they get reviewed for acceptance.
I also noticed IStock started a subscription service.
Message edited by author 2008-09-13 12:13:51. |
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09/22/2008 12:54:57 AM · #61 |
Wow, are these guys tough on a photo. DPC has NOTHING on iStock. The rejected 6 out of my first batch of 9 uploads. 2 were accepted, one is still pending. One reject was the shot they had initially approved on my application post of 3 shots (over processed). Another reject was my second highest scoring entry here on DPC. ("No clear focal point" was the reason given. Not sure I agree, but it's their decision).
Many of them were rejected for visible artifacting. Kind of interesting, as I am anal about visible artifacts, as some who have received my comments know. I guess if anything at all is visible at any size, they will reject it.
Not unlike DPC, where one person thinks it's great and the next person thinks it sucks.
Added: And the one they accepted on the trial submission, but now rejected, says I cannot resubmit it. Anyone know why they say you can resubmit some but not others?
Message edited by author 2008-09-22 01:04:43. |
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09/22/2008 02:27:18 AM · #62 |
yeah, there is a bit of a different set of rules when the reviewers views the image at 100% resolution. When we enter images in dpchallenge they are almost thumbnails in comparison. An image can be quite out of focus, with noise, artifacts, etc. etc. and it won't be viewable at only 800pixels wide, but at full resolution it is VERY visible.
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09/22/2008 02:55:28 AM · #63 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
Added: And the one they accepted on the trial submission, but now rejected, says I cannot resubmit it. Anyone know why they say you can resubmit some but not others? |
You CAN resubmit images that get their flaws through processing (artifacting, overfiltering) or that have legible personal information or copyrighted items that could be removed (license plates, names of boats, logos), but you CANNOT resubmit images that have flaws in the subject itself (have no clear focus point = badly composed, not stock worthy) or in the unedited shot (too small, out of focus, blurred). |
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09/22/2008 05:26:13 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
Wow, are these guys tough on a photo. DPC has NOTHING on iStock. The rejected 6 out of my first batch of 9 uploads. 2 were accepted, one is still pending. One reject was the shot they had initially approved on my application post of 3 shots (over processed). Another reject was my second highest scoring entry here on DPC. ("No clear focal point" was the reason given. Not sure I agree, but it's their decision).
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I'm having the same experience. I'm grateful that they passed me on the initial acceptance test, but I kinda would have expected that they would accept those three photos (but no). I'm up to 9 accepted now, but yet to have a sale like I have at the other sites. Mainly because my more 'commercial' shots haven't been accepted.
I'm really surprised that they seem to prefer landscape and natural texture type shots to those that I consider more commercial. Maybe I just suck at shooting people and objects :)
The positive side is that their feedback is excellent. The other sites are very generic in their feedback, but at iStock they have even attached zoomed in examples of the issues, such as purple fringing, which I didn't even know about previously. I love learning, and I'm determined to get a lot better through this process.
Good luck!
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09/22/2008 09:18:24 AM · #65 |
Hi All....
This forum has been really helpful to me, as I am a Stock Photographer Newbie. I like the variety of information here. I applied to iStockphoto and after one day was accepted, as were all 3 of my submitted photographs..... and only after reading this forum did I realize that I should be pretty proud of this accomplishment...... Now, I'm not trying to toot my own horn here.... I'm just telling you where I'm coming from..... (I'm not really a big horn tooter.....)
My question is, does anyone here use Aperture with the iStockphoto plug-in for uploading to iStockphoto? I am wondering what the best method is to send the proper format.... ie: I've got some TIFF's and some NEF's in Aperture. Do I need to convert them before uploading or does the uploader convert before sending??? Based on what I'm reading here, I want to get it right BEFORE sending since it seems they're pretty much sticklers....
I know...... darn newbies!
Thanks for any information you can provide.
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09/22/2008 09:20:51 AM · #66 |
Oh darn..... I had one more question...... If a photographer submits photos to say... iStockphoto.... can that photographer post the same photos to other stock photo sites for sale???? I understand that they can't be posted for free on sites like Flickr..... But my head is spinning about all of this stuff and I want to do it right.... GOSH I could use the $$$$
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09/22/2008 09:28:04 AM · #67 |
Originally posted by ANGELERA:
Oh darn..... I had one more question...... If a photographer submits photos to say... iStockphoto.... can that photographer post the same photos to other stock photo sites for sale???? I understand that they can't be posted for free on sites like Flickr..... But my head is spinning about all of this stuff and I want to do it right.... GOSH I could use the $$$$ |
As long as you don't sign an exclusivity contract, you're okay to put the same photos on iStock, Dreamstime, Shutterstock, Fotolia and Bigstock. Some other sites have different requirements though, so make sure about a specific site before you get involved there.
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09/22/2008 09:31:14 AM · #68 |
Originally posted by ANGELERA:
can that photographer post the same photos to other stock photo sites for sale???? |
Yes, unless you have an exclusive arrangement with the stock site. And you CAN post them to Flickr. Flickr is NOT about giving away free pictures. It is a social networking site for photography. My suggestion is if you want to protect your stock versions, then only post watermarked low res images on Flickr. |
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09/22/2008 09:38:59 AM · #69 |
After 2 months now, I am up to 62 images accepted on Shutterstock. It is doing the best for me. Still don't have enough for a payout, but I've made a little, and do see the potential for alot more!
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09/22/2008 11:13:26 AM · #70 |
Originally posted by Truegsht:
After 2 months now, I am up to 62 images accepted on Shutterstock. It is doing the best for me. Still don't have enough for a payout, but I've made a little, and do see the potential for alot more! |
About what percentage do you find them accepting?
Maybe I'll apply to them next and see how they feel about the ones iStock found fault with. The worst they can do is say "your photography sucks". |
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09/22/2008 01:04:40 PM · #71 |
Shutterstock already told me my photography sucks lol. It was SO BAD that they rejected me within 24 hours of applying - I kid you not. I've been going thru a spate of uploading photos so having hit and miss luck with some places except for 123rf who apparently has no problem with my work lol.
I plan on trying again at the end of my 30 days lockout period. I know what i need to do - just got to find the time to do it!
Good luck to you,  yospiff, and I hope you get farther than I did! |
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09/22/2008 04:53:25 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
Originally posted by Truegsht:
After 2 months now, I am up to 62 images accepted on Shutterstock. It is doing the best for me. Still don't have enough for a payout, but I've made a little, and do see the potential for alot more! |
About what percentage do you find them accepting?
Maybe I'll apply to them next and see how they feel about the ones iStock found fault with. The worst they can do is say "your photography sucks". |
I submitted 190 photos to start with...60 were accepted. I have been able to get 2 more since then. You have to be spot on with them...nothing to distract when they view at the largest size, no noise, artifacts, etc.
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09/22/2008 04:59:57 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by Truegsht:
You have to be spot on with them...nothing to distract when they view at the largest size, no noise, artifacts, etc. |
That is the impression I got, as many of the ones they rejected would only show imprefections at 1:1 viewing. Web size entries are normally more forgiving.
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09/23/2008 07:45:46 AM · #74 |
Thanks for the information. I knew I posted the question to a good source. This makes me very happy. Now, if only I could find someone who's uploading with Aperture and the plug-in for iStockphoto.
Thanks for your time guys.
-Ange
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09/23/2008 07:57:45 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
Shutterstock already told me my photography sucks lol. It was SO BAD that they rejected me within 24 hours of applying - I kid you not. I've been going thru a spate of uploading photos so having hit and miss luck with some places except for 123rf who apparently has no problem with my work lol.
I plan on trying again at the end of my 30 days lockout period. I know what i need to do - just got to find the time to do it! |
I find this interesting, as your scores here show way more skill at the art than mine do. Meanwhile, Truegsht whose average is 4.78, says he's had about a 30% acceptance rate. I suspect there are significant differences in what does well here and what the stock sites want. Might be interesting to try and quantify what they look for that is different from what does well on DPC.
Message edited by author 2008-09-23 19:58:26. |
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