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07/18/2008 08:23:41 PM · #1
I think I'm finally settling on getting a Nikon, but lens cost factors in of course.

What is a good Nikon landscape lens (it doesn't even have to be AF or anything, I love the old MF lenses), and how much can I expect to pay for it?

I feel my ability to take landscape shots is currently hindered greatly by my lack of lenses that focus clearly at infinity.
07/18/2008 08:28:43 PM · #2
the
14-24mm!!!

lol it is awesome though
07/18/2008 08:30:46 PM · #3
Tell me more-- aperture, any funky lettering they like to put on there to distinguish it, etc.
I.E. is it the 14-24mm f/4.0 EXkSP Advanced Pro E series or what?

And price?
07/18/2008 08:31:36 PM · #4
My favorite landscapes were taken with a telephoto...
07/18/2008 08:33:22 PM · #5
i use a Sigma 10-20mm 1:4-5.6 DC HSM, i love it takes crisp clear photo no complaints at all
07/18/2008 08:34:17 PM · #6
This one is the one. It's like 900 bucks but I'm in love with it. At least i think this is the one
07/18/2008 08:59:48 PM · #7
This one is quite the beast...

Nikon has some great wide angle lenses, and of course for architectural work, you can check out the tilt lenses like this one

07/18/2008 09:02:39 PM · #8
Originally posted by Joker1114:

i use a Sigma 10-20mm 1:4-5.6 DC HSM, i love it takes crisp clear photo no complaints at all


thats what I have too. love it
07/18/2008 09:09:52 PM · #9
Originally posted by AC:

This one is quite the beast...

Nikon has some great wide angle lenses, and of course for architectural work, you can check out the tilt lenses like this one


Woah, what's a tilt lens do?
07/18/2008 10:04:29 PM · #10
This is a great buy...Tokina 12-24mm f4.0. Great build, nice and sharp.
07/18/2008 10:07:08 PM · #11
If you're looking the way of Tokina, check out the 11-16 f/2.8. Faster, sharper, and wider than the Nikkor 12-24 f/4.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and like, half the price :D

Message edited by author 2008-07-18 22:07:34.
07/18/2008 10:20:18 PM · #12
Originally posted by zackdezon:

Originally posted by AC:

This one is quite the beast...

Nikon has some great wide angle lenses, and of course for architectural work, you can check out the tilt lenses like this one


Woah, what's a tilt lens do?
Read me!
07/18/2008 10:56:43 PM · #13
Originally posted by Anti-Martyr:

If you're looking the way of Tokina, check out the 11-16 f/2.8. Faster, sharper, and wider than the Nikkor 12-24 f/4.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and like, half the price :D


Yup and yup -- beat me to that suggestion. I'm saving up for this one, too. Haven't heard any bad reviews. Those extra stops can come in handy (maybe not as much for landscape, but I do lots of low-light work).

Here's the link for it (not many pictures yet, since it's a new lens -- I actually asked the SC to add it when it came out... maybe 3 months ago? 2? Not long ago...).
07/19/2008 03:29:36 AM · #14
Sweet guys, this all looks like really good stuff! Keep it comin' ;P
07/19/2008 06:49:11 AM · #15
The picture below was taken from the tokina 12-24mm with the D200.



The only problem with that lens is the significantly large amount of CA, which can be however corrected if you shoot raw (the correction will probably be less good if you shoot jpg).

My own feeling with sigma lenses is rather mixed. If you have the money, get the Nikon 12-24 (for smaller sensor cameras), probably one the best lenses you can find in the market. The tokina is not far below. I chose it for built quality, good sharpness from center to edges, f/4. Although I am not a hardcore wide shooter, I like using this lens for multi-purpose.
07/19/2008 06:56:52 AM · #16
Originally posted by msieglerfr:



The only problem with that lens is the significantly large amount of CA, which can be however corrected if you shoot raw (the correction will probably be less good if you shoot jpg).


I have personally not found this to be the case for the vast majority of shooting situations. I have nothing but good things to say - other than I would sure like that extra 2mm on the low end for really wide situations...
07/19/2008 07:14:35 AM · #17
Originally posted by bassbone:

Originally posted by msieglerfr:



The only problem with that lens is the significantly large amount of CA, which can be however corrected if you shoot raw (the correction will probably be less good if you shoot jpg).


I have personally not found this to be the case for the vast majority of shooting situations. I have nothing but good things to say - other than I would sure like that extra 2mm on the low end for really wide situations...


It is a pretty known issue with Tokina lenses (coating problem?), see photozone.de for further details. However, with the D300, i think there is a possibility to remove to some extent CA from the raw data. I am not 100 % sure though.
07/19/2008 08:06:54 AM · #18
I'll ask the stupid question. What is CA?

All I come up with is Chroma Aberration, which still means nothing to my feeble mind before first coffee.

Thanks!

(edited for spelling, which also doesn't seem to be working this morning.)

Message edited by author 2008-07-19 08:10:56.
07/19/2008 08:14:35 AM · #19
Originally posted by ambaker:

What is CA?

Here's a decent definition....chromatic aberration

07/19/2008 08:31:28 AM · #20
Originally posted by bassbone:

Originally posted by ambaker:

What is CA?

Here's a decent definition....chromatic aberration


You are right, it is very good and simple enough that even I can understand it.

Thanks!
07/19/2008 08:35:19 AM · #21
Originally posted by ambaker:

I'll ask the stupid question. What is CA?

All I come up with is Chroma Aberration, which still means nothing to my feeble mind before first coffee.

Thanks!

(edited for spelling, which also doesn't seem to be working this morning.)


CA

07/19/2008 09:15:09 AM · #22
Originally posted by Anti-Martyr:

If you're looking the way of Tokina, check out the 11-16 f/2.8. Faster, sharper, and wider than the Nikkor 12-24 f/4.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and like, half the price :D


If you can find one. They are out of stock everywhere I have looked. On a list though and waiting. Should have pulled the trigger last month THE ONE DAY it was in stock.
07/19/2008 11:45:09 AM · #23
Originally posted by msieglerfr:

Originally posted by bassbone:

Originally posted by msieglerfr:



The only problem with that lens is the significantly large amount of CA, which can be however corrected if you shoot raw (the correction will probably be less good if you shoot jpg).


I have personally not found this to be the case for the vast majority of shooting situations. I have nothing but good things to say - other than I would sure like that extra 2mm on the low end for really wide situations...


It is a pretty known issue with Tokina lenses (coating problem?), see photozone.de for further details. However, with the D300, i think there is a possibility to remove to some extent CA from the raw data. I am not 100 % sure though.


It seems to me from viewing more than just one review that the Tokina is very close to the Nikon with regards to all image quality. The one review you cited appears to possibly had a bad copy of the lens. I have read many other reviews that suggest that it is actually quite good with regards to CA. I personally don't see hardly any CA on my copy of the lens unless under extremely harsh lighting environments and it is generally very small and attributed at 12mm.
07/19/2008 12:01:51 PM · #24
Originally posted by bassbone:



It seems to me from viewing more than just one review that the Tokina is very close to the Nikon with regards to all image quality. The one review you cited appears to possibly had a bad copy of the lens. I have read many other reviews that suggest that it is actually quite good with regards to CA. I personally don't see hardly any CA on my copy of the lens unless under extremely harsh lighting environments and it is generally very small and attributed at 12mm.


I agree with you for most of it. Though, I have a fairly good experience with Tokina lenses (the most reliable third party IMO), and I can assure you that CA is an issue with most Tokina lenses (at least the new ones). Though, it certainly does not change my view about the tokina 12-24, which is a superb lens. The Nikon behaves much better (but well, that's a top-notch nikon lens, so it is somewhat expected to deliver excellent result) and produce much less CAs at smaller focal lenghts (e.g, 12 mm). CA are more visible if the picture is viewed at 100 %. I will post some examples, which should be convincing. Most of CA can be removed with the RAW data, so this issue is minimized to a very large extent. More later.

07/19/2008 12:11:30 PM · #25
CA is definitely the easiest lens defect to correct in post, so unless you shoot alot of jpeg, it shouldn't be an issue when comparing lenses. Purple fringing and Longitudinal (bokeh) CA are harder to correct for (B&W FTW!)...
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