Am i allowed to do this? (pictures included)

07/13/2008 03:28:58 PM · #1

I am trying to get back into doing these challenges, but i have an editing question.
I had a hair on the lens, and using the dust correction tool in Lightroom i was quickly able to remove it. But, I'd rather enter the photo with a small imperfection, then get disqualified from the contest.
Here are the crops from the photo

Is doing this withing the rules of Basic Editing?

07/13/2008 03:30:09 PM · #2

No you CAN NOT do that in Basic editing

Message edited by author 2008-07-13 15:31:01.

07/13/2008 03:34:19 PM · #3

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

No you CAN NOT do that in Basic editing

Sure you can.

"You may not:

*spot-edit your entry, except to remove sensor dust or hot pixels."

Message edited by author 2008-07-13 15:34:40.

07/13/2008 03:35:04 PM · #4

@ Dirt_Diver:
Thanks for the quick reply
I guess I'll enter the image with the imperfection

After reading the rules again, I'll look into the Dust & Scratches filter in Photoshop, since it looks like that is allowed. Maybe that would work for my image.

[EDIT}
@option:
That's what i though :)

Message edited by author 2008-07-13 15:36:35.

07/13/2008 03:36:12 PM · #5

Originally posted by PlayWithFire:

:( Thanks for the quick reply
I guess I'll enter the image with the imperfection

Look again!

07/13/2008 03:36:51 PM · #6

Post edited :)
You were too quick

And thanks for the clarification. I just wanted to be sure

Message edited by author 2008-07-13 15:37:46.

07/13/2008 03:39:33 PM · #7

Originally posted by option:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
No you CAN NOT do that in Basic editing

Sure you can.

"You may not:

*spot-edit your entry, except to remove sensor dust or hot pixels."

It's not sensor dust or a hot pixel he would be removing. He would be removing a hair. I have seen a DQ for this before, ask SC this image would be DQ'd.

07/13/2008 03:40:42 PM · #8

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Originally posted by option:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
No you CAN NOT do that in Basic editing

Sure you can.

"You may not:

*spot-edit your entry, except to remove sensor dust or hot pixels."

It's not sensor dust or a hot pixel he would be removing. He would be removing a hair. I have seen a DQ for this before, ask SC this image would be DQ'd.

So call it elongated sensor dust...

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L IS USM

07/13/2008 03:43:21 PM · #9

SC knows what sensor dust looks like. I would just clean out the hair and reshoot.

photokariangel

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

07/13/2008 03:45:04 PM · #10

quick question for all ya'll in regards to can i do this, can you correct camera distortion in advanced editing by adding a vinegetting effect around the image?

scarbrd

Leica M10

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

07/13/2008 03:47:51 PM · #11

Originally posted by photokariangel:

quick question for all ya'll in regards to can i do this, can you correct camera distortion in advanced editing by adding a vinegetting effect around the image?

Not in Basic. Many images have been DQ'd under the Added Element clause when using anything to create a vignette.

photokariangel

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L IS USM

07/13/2008 03:48:46 PM · #12

but in advanced?...

Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by photokariangel:
quick question for all ya'll in regards to can i do this, can you correct camera distortion in advanced editing by adding a vinegetting effect around the image?

Not in Basic. Many images have been DQ'd under the Added Element clause when using anything to create a vignette.

jeger

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/13/2008 03:49:04 PM · #13

Originally posted by PlayWithFire:

Is doing this withing the rules of Basic Editing?

You are not allowed to remove the hair in post processing. You are only allowed to remove hot pixes or sensor dust, and a hair does not fall into either of those categories.

07/13/2008 03:51:44 PM · #14

Originally posted by photokariangel:

quick question for all ya'll in regards to can i do this, can you correct camera distortion in advanced editing by adding a vinegetting effect around the image?

As long as you don't distort the image and you don't fully cover up any major details.

07/13/2008 03:52:22 PM · #15

Originally posted by photokariangel:

but in advanced?...

Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by photokariangel:
quick question for all ya'll in regards to can i do this, can you correct camera distortion in advanced editing by adding a vinegetting effect around the image?

Not in Basic. Many images have been DQ'd under the Added Element clause when using anything to create a vignette.

yes you can remove the hair in advanced editing.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/13/2008 03:52:53 PM · #16

what if the hair was on the sensor, and not the lens?

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

07/13/2008 03:53:33 PM · #17

Originally posted by option:

what if the hair was on the sensor, and not the lens?

Shave your sensor before each shoot.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

07/13/2008 03:55:13 PM · #18

Originally posted by photokariangel:

That is ok to do in advance but you wouldn't be fixing the distortion just covering it up. I only mention that because you CAN do actual correction to distortion in post under advance (i.e. photoshop transform tools, third party tools such as PTLens, etc.) Just make sure if you use that it is done to straight lines and don't do it for artistic effect.

photokariangel

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L IS USM

07/13/2008 03:55:21 PM · #19

haha, no relating to the vinegetting. Sorry for high-jacking the thread a little!

AS for the real question, im pretty sure that if it is indeed on the sensor, you can pretty mcuh tell it wasent on the lens, thus catagorized as sensor dust. like if questioned just provide another picture of the hair on another photo (such as a shot of the sky) showing that it is indeed sensor dust

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Originally posted by photokariangel:
but in advanced?...

Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by photokariangel:
quick question for all ya'll in regards to can i do this, can you correct camera distortion in advanced editing by adding a vinegetting effect around the image?

Not in Basic. Many images have been DQ'd under the Added Element clause when using anything to create a vignette.

yes you can remove the hair in advanced editing.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

07/13/2008 03:56:35 PM · #20

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Originally posted by photokariangel:
quick question for all ya'll in regards to can i do this, can you correct camera distortion in advanced editing by adding a vinegetting effect around the image?

As long as you don't distort the image and you don't fully cover up any major details.

Distorting to correct perspective IS allowed under advance.

"You May:

use software to correct perspective, lens defects, or minor misalignments."

Message edited by author 2008-07-13 15:57:53.

Tamron 16-300mm Di II VC PZD MACRO w/Canon Nikon mount

07/13/2008 04:01:56 PM · #21

But a minor misalignment is a VERY thin line to be playing with. It's better to just stay away from it.

JulietNN

Canon EOS R7

07/13/2008 04:04:22 PM · #22

I had half a cat stuck in my camera, sent it to the SC for advice on whether i could take it out or not.

The answer was yes. BUT you have to send it to the SC board to get a positive or negative answer

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

07/13/2008 05:12:31 PM · #23

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

But a minor misalignment is a VERY thin line to be playing with. It's better to just stay away from it.

It says "OR minor misalignment". Barrel and pincushion distortions can be corrected in advance. That has been confirmed by the SC before on many occassions. The only issue is it needs to be done to correct perspective not create an effect (ex. making something that looks like a fisheye shot when it wasn't originally).

Message edited by author 2008-07-13 17:13:59.

07/13/2008 05:17:08 PM · #24

i didn't realize this thread was going to grow this fast
i guess i'll shoot a message to the SC with a link to this thread, and get them to tell me what i can do.

i'll post back here when i hear from them