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			|  | 07/10/2008 03:45:35 PM · #1 | 
		| | I just got the SB800 to start learning off camera flash.  My D50 does not have a commander mode so I purchased the SB800 to be on camera and then be able to trigger the SB600 off camera. 
 My question:  the manuals say to set the camera to Aperature Priority.  However I cannot change any settings in any mode other than Manual.  All other modes (P/S/A) have a 30" shutter and am not able to change it.
 
 At first I could not get the SB600 to fire, then discovered it was defaulting to channel 3.  once I changed the SB800 to channel 3 it would trigger the SB600.  but again I have to use Manual mode....
 
 Is this right?  is it the flash or the camera?
 
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			|  | 07/10/2008 04:39:01 PM · #2 | 
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			|  | 07/10/2008 04:45:54 PM · #3 | 
		| | dassilem, You should be able to change aperture setting in P, A and M mode on the D50. | 
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			|  | 07/10/2008 04:46:51 PM · #4 | 
		| | Try using the SB-600 on camera and setting the SB-800 to SU-4 mode. I believe you can do that with out using manual mode. Edit to add you should shoot in manual mode anyway you have more control. 
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			|  | 07/10/2008 04:47:00 PM · #5 | 
		| | Hate to ask a dumb question but are you rotating the dial to try and change the settings once in P and A mode? | 
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			|  | 07/10/2008 06:38:41 PM · #6 | 
		| | Thanks everyone.....the changing of the aperature/shutter is only a problem if I have my SB800 on camera....and triggering the SB600.  it remains at 30". 
 waz, I know I should be using Manual but I often screw it up and am more comfortable in A or P.....but then again this may MAKE me learn the Manual.
 
 I can't put the SB600 on camera and trigger the SB800 because the D50 does not have commander mode.
 I don't know what SU-4 mode is?
 
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			|  | 07/10/2008 06:45:18 PM · #7 | 
		| | | Originally posted by dassilem: 
 I can't put the SB600 on camera and trigger the SB800 because the D50 does not have commander mode.
 I don't know what SU-4 mode is?
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 You don't need the commander mode when the SB-800 is in SU-4 mode. Your SB-800 manual page 72 will tell you how to put it in that mode. In SU-4 mode the flash is a pure slave triggered by the flash of the SB-600.
 
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			|  | 07/10/2008 08:34:02 PM · #8 | 
		| | Sounds like you have 3 manuals to read through again.  :) 
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			|  | 07/11/2008 02:29:38 AM · #9 | 
		| | I don't own a D50 but it's much like my D200.  There is a menu setting where you can adjust flash shutter speed and sync speed. You should also be able to use flash with the manual in manual mode. I do it all the time. So check out those manuals as suggested. If you'd like to ask your question at a forum that is more technically oriented, try Nikonians.You can register free of charge. A nice group of people who have a wide range of knowledge on Nikon products from day one. 
 Good luck.
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			|  | 07/11/2008 08:08:12 AM · #10 | 
		| | ok....thanks everyone....guess I've got some more reading to do....(which confused me the first time....lol) 
 sorry for the dumb questions.....it just may be abit over my head.
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			|  | 07/11/2008 11:54:15 AM · #11 | 
		| | I have a D50 and have used it extensively with an SB-600 and know it works.  Unfortunately, I've never used an SB-800 and my D50 is on loan in another state or I'd pull it out and try to help. 
 It sounds like there may be some interaction between the SB-800 and the D50.  Do you have all of the flash settings on the D50 at their defaults?  Or is the SB-800 defective and somehow reporting odd values back to the D50 (not sure if this can actually happen).
 
 Good luck!
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			|  | 07/11/2008 12:00:29 PM · #12 | 
		| | | Originally posted by mjwood0: I have a D50 and have used it extensively with an SB-600 and know it works.  Unfortunately, I've never used an SB-800 and my D50 is on loan in another state or I'd pull it out and try to help.
 
 It sounds like there may be some interaction between the SB-800 and the D50.  Do you have all of the flash settings on the D50 at their defaults?  Or is the SB-800 defective and somehow reporting odd values back to the D50 (not sure if this can actually happen).
 
 Good luck!
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 thank you....I've used the SB600 for about a year.....and no problems....I did NOT try just using the SB800 alone...immediately wanted to see it trigger the SB600...so that should be the first thing I try and determine if there is something wrong with it.  Thanks
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