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07/09/2008 06:49:30 PM · #1 |
Me again... lots of questions today. I'm new to this, give me a break! LOL
So I've seen tons of images on wedding photography websites and it is obvious there is a broad range of skill out there - either that or some photogs know their cameras and photoshop much better than others.
Here's my question. You know how the color of some images are so rich looking they look painted on. I want to do that! How do I make color GORGEOUS? How do I make that blue sky bluer, the green grass greener, and the brides bouquet jump off the screen? Is it filters? Is it simply a saturation/contrast issue on the cam? Or, is the image simply modified in photoshop?
Thanks so much!
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07/09/2008 06:53:50 PM · #2 |
Have a look on the top of the DPC homepage. Click on learn, and then make your way through the tutorials, they are a great start to learning!
Good luck and have fun. |
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07/09/2008 10:02:06 PM · #3 |
You're asking a lot of somewhat basic questions, which is fine, but you're asking them in the wrong forum IMO - this forum is about the business of photography and how to get colors to pop isn't a business question so you might do better in another forum.
You've asked quite a few questions making me wonder if you're considering becoming a professional photographer? If so you have a lot to learn based on your questions, a lot to buy (based on your gear listings). That's fine, that's why we're here, more or less.
Just don't jump in with both feet and ruin someone's wedding because you're not ready or get yourself into legal or financial trouble out of ignorance or exuberance.
Owning and running a photography business is fun, but it's also 70% business and 30% photography - are you prepared for the business part of it?
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07/09/2008 11:03:51 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
You're asking a lot of somewhat basic questions, which is fine, but you're asking them in the wrong forum IMO - this forum is about the business of photography and how to get colors to pop isn't a business question so you might do better in another forum.
You've asked quite a few questions making me wonder if you're considering becoming a professional photographer? If so you have a lot to learn based on your questions, a lot to buy (based on your gear listings). That's fine, that's why we're here, more or less.
Just don't jump in with both feet and ruin someone's wedding because you're not ready or get yourself into legal or financial trouble out of ignorance or exuberance.
Owning and running a photography business is fun, but it's also 70% business and 30% photography - are you prepared for the business part of it? |
Dude, she asks a simple question and suddenly you have her ruining weddings and getting into legal and financial trouble? What's up with that?
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07/09/2008 11:08:09 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Mick:
Dude, she asks a simple question and suddenly you have her ruining weddings and getting into legal and financial trouble? What's up with that? |
She asked...'is my gear worthy of WEDDING PHOTOGRAPHY?'
............'how do I make colors POP in wedding photography?'
............'RAW or JPEG?'
I think Prof Fate is giving some good advice. Her questions also led me to believe she would be doing some wedding work in the near future.
If she doesn't know what she is getting into...pro fate offers good advice and his knowledge is something to be used...not scoffed at. IMO anyways.
Message edited by author 2008-07-09 23:08:35.
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07/09/2008 11:09:58 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by shutterbliss:
Me again... lots of questions today. I'm new to this, give me a break! LOL
So I've seen tons of images on wedding photography websites and it is obvious there is a broad range of skill out there - either that or some photogs know their cameras and photoshop much better than others.
Here's my question. You know how the color of some images are so rich looking they look painted on. I want to do that! How do I make color GORGEOUS? How do I make that blue sky bluer, the green grass greener, and the brides bouquet jump off the screen? Is it filters? Is it simply a saturation/contrast issue on the cam? Or, is the image simply modified in photoshop?
Thanks so much! |
Most of it is done in Photoshop with saturation adjustments. Of course, camera settings can also make a difference. You should be careful with saturation adjustments though because photos can easily end up looking gaudy and unreal.
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07/09/2008 11:17:47 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by egamble:
I think Prof Fate is giving some good advice. Her questions also led me to believe she would be doing some wedding work in the near future.
If she doesn't know what she is getting into...pro fate offers good advice and his knowledge is something to be used...not scoffed at. IMO anyways. |
I don't see how it's his business or yours whether she shoots weddings or not. She doesn't need permission from either of you, does she? Are you guys the wedding police now?
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07/09/2008 11:20:24 PM · #8 |
Wow, way to serve your own agendas in someone else's harmless thread.
To the OP (who asked a simple question about a PP technique) have a look at this tutorial: //ilovephotography.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=190466 and google others like it. You'll figure it out in no time. Good luck with your events.
Message edited by author 2008-07-09 23:29:16.
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07/09/2008 11:20:49 PM · #9 |
I have noticed that it is a lot of contrast & saturation boost that make the pics pop. It's a whole process though, capturing the moment(which is the hardest part to learn, imo) getting the exposure right, decent gear and knowing your way around a good editing program to maximize the the photos you have taken. Keep asking questions, there are many here who are willing to tell you what they know, I have learned so much from the good folks here.
Experiment with your photos in your editing program and see if you can duplicate the look you are going for, best way to learn is to do, imo. |
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07/09/2008 11:39:45 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Wow, way to serve your own agendas in someone else's harmless thread.
To the OP (who asked a simple question about a PP technique) have a look at this tutorial: //ilovephotography.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=190466 and google others like it. You'll figure it out in no time. Good luck with your events. |
Lol, yes prof fate is a member of the elite force known as the "wedding police"... think a comment through before you type. He is a very expeience photographer who is asking questions to provoke thoughtful responses. While he did not answer the OP's question, those are questions that are valid and should be though about if she has not already done so!
Back to the OP, most of those POPing colors, as others have said, are done in photoshop. If your just getting started & don't have your own copy I would go try out a version of photoshop elements. It has a really good learning curve and then you don't have to spend a grand on the full CS3 version... unless you have a grand to burn :p
Anyhoo probably gonna get blasted for the first paragraph... whatever! Hope you can find the answers your looking for shutterbliss!
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07/09/2008 11:49:31 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by StOlafPhotographer:
... He is a very expeience photographer ... |
Sorry, but on what do you base this statement. His prolific posting skills at DPC? If you check the history.. like most of us, one or 2 years ago we all had day jobs. Pizza delivery anyone? Some of us focus on our business and some of us focus on making ourselves seem important. I'm just saying.
If I'm to be banned for relieving myself of a long held tongue, then so be it. Chris, you are arrogant. And you don't have the experience to lash new users the way you do. There are almost a billion weddings a year, dude, plenty for everyone... crappy or not. Get over it.
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07/10/2008 12:01:14 AM · #12 |
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Message edited by author 2008-07-10 00:03:33.
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07/10/2008 12:03:08 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by egamble:
[quote=Mick]
I don't see how it's his business or yours whether she shoots weddings or not. She doesn't need permission from either of you, does she? Are you guys the wedding police now? |
Don't be an jerk. I am just saying...that if she is going to go into buisiness...Prof fate gives some good advice.
Better for him to be a bit blunt...than for her to end up in court.
I would have never even thought of getting insurance before doing weddings and on-location shoots. It just isn't something the regular non-buisiness minded person thinks of. It wasn't until I read several of his postings...that I started taking things seriously (like getting model release forms, etc)
He is blunt....he might come off like a jerk...but his advice (even if not given directly to me) has helped me a great deal.
Message edited by author 2008-07-10 00:05:53.
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07/10/2008 12:07:06 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by StOlafPhotographer:
... He is a very expeience photographer ... |
Sorry, but on what do you base this statement. His prolific posting skills at DPC? If you check the history.. like most of us, one or 2 years ago we all had day jobs. Pizza delivery anyone? Some of us focus on our business and some of us focus on making ourselves seem important. I'm just saying.
If I'm to be banned for relieving myself of a long held tongue, then so be it. Chris, you are arrogant. And you don't have the experience to lash new users the way you do. There are almost a billion weddings a year, dude, plenty for everyone... crappy or not. Get over it. |
Here, here!! Couldn't have said it better myself.
To the OP, I also wondered about making colors look true and vibrant without looking over-saturated and too post-processed. My conclusion is, good glass and equipment DO help. Making sure you get your white balance sorted out helps enormously (either in-camera or on PS). Being proficient in Photoshop (particularly when it comes to color adjustments and basic levels, curves, layers, etc.) will stand you in good stead. You tube is a good source for tutorials if you are slightly inexperienced.
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07/10/2008 12:08:54 AM · #15 |
Simple trick:
Duplicate the photo in a new layer and set it to "soft light" and play with the opacity. Automatically adds more richness and contrast.
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07/10/2008 12:18:12 AM · #16 |
I honestly don't believe, though I can't see into the mind of prof, that he was trying to "lash" any new users... maybe he could have worded it a bit more delicately but it doesn't change the fact those questions are still valid if she's going to be going into professional photography! :) Hell, I'm trying to get into it and it hasn't been easy, prof fate has shown that he gives good advice that is pretty savvy.
Evan
Not trying to be contrite just show a different point of view! I've always been a sucker for the devils advocate, I don't mean to offend anyone and I apologize if I have! :) |
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07/10/2008 12:18:52 AM · #17 |
Totally hijacked this post, I'm sorry I'm done! :)
Evan |
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07/10/2008 01:24:39 PM · #18 |
| Nothing the OP said indicated she was going to foray into wedding photography. I cannot agree more with idnic's comments. Keep this ON topic from now on, please. |
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07/10/2008 01:33:55 PM · #19 |
I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned a polarizer filter will enhance colors in the camera. It helps to make skies bluer, grasses greener, ect. I only use mine outside in natural light though.
I'm sorry that your innocent question has ignited such a heated debate. There really is some tidbits of good advice. Take what you can, ignore the rest.
Welcome to DPC!
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07/10/2008 01:53:05 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Tlemetry:
I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned a polarizer filter will enhance colors in the camera. It helps to make skies bluer, grasses greener, ect. I only use mine outside in natural light though.
I'm sorry that your innocent question has ignited such a heated debate. There really is some tidbits of good advice. Take what you can, ignore the rest.
Welcome to DPC! |
Good point. There are also several different types of color enhancing filters available.
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07/10/2008 02:21:09 PM · #21 |
Another technique for "brightening" the look of a photo is to use high-radius Unsharp Mask; in Photoshop you might start with settings like:
Amt: 15%
Dia: 50 pixels
Threshold: 0
I find this works especially well on hazy-looking landscape photos ... here's an example -- this was shot from a schoolbus window.
Original:  Entry: 
Also learn to use Curves to adjust particular portions of the tone range, and practice using Curves on the individual color channels -- the example above used a Curve on the Blue/Yellow channel to improve the sky color.
Message edited by author 2008-07-10 14:23:22. |
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