jlanoue - The best DPCer you'll never credit

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

05/21/2008 09:17:43 PM · #126

Well, I'm female so it's my job not only to go off topic but to change my mind at least 500 times...

Which leads me to my next question...

Oh no!!....

::watches in horror as Steve promptly faints::

pawdrix

Nikon D700

05/21/2008 10:48:24 PM · #127

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

I don't think we are off topic. I think we are discussing the finer points of the topic and looking to understand the way DPC views technical artist's such as jlanoue ...

I couldn't agree with you more.

What interest or benefit is it, if someone makes a simple or bold statement and then everyone lines up and agrees with that statement?

Stagnant shizzle, imo.

Message edited by author 2008-05-21 22:51:03.

Artifacts

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/21/2008 11:55:56 PM · #128

Originally posted by yanko:

So you didn't start out by claiming jlanoue's work doesn't receive credit? Maybe I misinterpreted the title of the thread and the nine paragraphs in your openning post before the two you mentioned. That's what I was referring to when I said "It started...".

I have no fundamental problem with the way the discussion has gone. In its own roundabout way it indirectly addresses my issue. Without actually discussing it, I think the back-and-forth here answers what I wanted to explore when I started the discussion.

I was just kinda hoping that a few other folks would see that this is more than just a discussion about what art is.

You left me an opening so I just thought I'd make a third attempt at it.

For those paying attention, I tried twice before to re-direct the discussion back on topic but it didn't take. LOL!!! :)

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/22/2008 12:02:36 AM · #129

Originally posted by Artifacts:

DPCers justifiable fancy themselves as the most sophisticated and knowledgeable amateur photographers at the very best photo competition site on the Internet. They have plenty of good reasons to think that. You can and should be proud.

Perhaps now, though, it is the time for DPCers to begin to expand their horizons a little bit beyond Haystack Rock, cutesy ideas, bug macros, St. Peters Cathedral across from the Millennium Bridge, clever or extreme post processing, portraitures, the Sydney Opera House, red rock landscapes and "meeting the challenge".

Yes DPC does have a fat head. :-P

And for the record I agree that it is time to lead that horse to water. I am not quite sure how to make it drink. I do think, as has been said before, that the lack of understanding makes it easier to dismiss the effort and expertise.

Message edited by author 2008-05-22 00:03:17.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

05/22/2008 12:22:59 AM · #130

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

And for the record I agree that it is time to lead that horse to water. I am not quite sure how to make it drink. I do think, as has been said before, that the lack of understanding makes it easier to dismiss the effort and expertise.

Since I'm a fountain of answers (lol), maybe it's just because people need more than just a picture of the sky to satisfy them. I bet those auroras from Iceland wouldn't do so well either if not for those mountainous/icy landscapes in them. Come to think of it, sunset shots don't do well either unless you stick something else in there like a silhouette. So the answer is simple. The next time you photograph NGC 4414 wait for a UFO to pass by. :P

Message edited by author 2008-05-22 00:24:35.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/22/2008 12:55:02 AM · #131

We have a saying in the horse world...be careful what you teach a horse, because eventually the horse will use it against you. So, I for one, Richard, appreciate the value of your fountain of wisdom. But, really...who cares about Art? I'm a shallow DPC'er...I'm just picking your brain so I can beat you in a challenge...;-P

So, tell me when exactly does technical prowess transcend past the point of a craftsman's skill and well into the Realm of Art...if I click my shutter to capture that UFO in silhouette against a brilliant starry sky, will I understand at last that...

The Truth is out there and now I may behold myself finally as...an Artist?

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

05/22/2008 01:21:03 AM · #132

To quote Garth Algar "We fear change".

Originally posted by yanko:

Gonna have to be one big ass UFO! :-D

jdannels

Nikon D300s

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

05/28/2008 02:08:25 AM · #133

Well well, lets see how

jlanoue does this week with the Night Sky-Advanced Editing challenge... :) Hope he works up an entry.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

05/28/2008 02:09:02 PM · #134

Originally posted by jdannels:

Well well, lets see how jlanoue does this week with the Night Sky-Advanced Editing challenge... :) Hope he works up an entry.

Yes...and

jlanoue? Don't forget the UFO...Hmmmmm...perhaps a panning shot would be nice?...;-)

jlanoue

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

05/29/2008 03:51:23 PM · #135

True story... I usually leave my telescope running overnight and come out the next morning to see the images I've captured from the previous evening, 75% of the time something goes wrong in the wee hours of the morning and the astrophotos from that point on are unuseable. Usually it's one of 5 or 10 things that go wrong, but one morning my scope was pointing almost even with the horizon and starting around 3:00am all my shots had a large obstruction that showed up on the pics, I figured it was a leaf or something, but a closer inspection showed bird poo in my OTA (optical tube assembly), apparently some nocturnal critter decided to call my scope home for a few hours :-) OK, not quite a UFO, but definitely unidentified!

John

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/29/2008 03:55:58 PM · #136

Originally posted by jlanoue:

OK, not quite a UFO, but definitely unidentified!

John

HA! A UFP "unidentified flying poop"!