40D vs 5D...That is the question

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

05/07/2008 02:09:22 PM · #32

i like the 40d. I wish the 5d was the same as it in terms of operating speed. The 5d has a slower processing unit, but the pictures it produces are just great. Defo the best for the money it costs. If you want speed go for the 40d.

I have a 40d, i love it. I think it's absolutely ace. Nice screen too. I find the interface better than on the 5d, but the 5d has the best pictures... so if money is no object and you don't need total speed, take a 5d.

robs

Canon EOS R6 Mk II

05/07/2008 02:49:12 PM · #33

Originally posted by cloudsme:

5D is an awesome camera. I would say if wideangle photography is important for you, go with a full frame sensor (5D).

Yeah, I see that a lot but... that Canon 10-22 lens is just a great lens. The 17-40 does not seem to stack up around the edges... and while the 16-35 appears to be a great lens; it's is a smidge more $$$$$ :-o/.

I always thought I would swap to a FF also but, I would how hate to give up that 10-22 lens, since the 16-35 is soooooo expensive - maybe the 17-40 can be as good but it seems to be a mixed bag on a FF body.

Rigt now, I cannot decide between those 2 bodies.... maybe the 5D-II if such a mythical creature will ever exist will change my mind... and maybe it will be so &^% expensive due to the free fall USD it will be too expensive also.... dunno.

Simms

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/07/2008 03:31:58 PM · #34

OK, on a slightly different slant, I have upgraded from my 5D to a 1Dmk3 (keeping my 5D as 2nd camera at weddings).

Lets just say, even now I have been spoiled by the 1d now I have got used to it, I will say the 5D in terms of image quality is right up there with the 1D, in some aspects it actually surpasses it, in areas such as noise at high ISO levels I think the 5D has the edge over the 1D mk3, just barely and only at 100% zoom level, but the 5D is far more `controlled`.

Niggly things the 5D doesn't have that annoy me are lack of weather proofing (which I believe even the 40D has a semblance of), low FPS 3fps compared to 6fps on the 40D. But other than that I cant fault the 5D really and I know I will be holding onto and using mine for a long time to come. If you can afford one, then get one.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

05/07/2008 04:19:57 PM · #35

Originally posted by robs:

Originally posted by cloudsme:
5D is an awesome camera. I would say if wideangle photography is important for you, go with a full frame sensor (5D).

Yeah, I see that a lot but... that Canon 10-22 lens is just a great lens. The 17-40 does not seem to stack up around the edges... and while the 16-35 appears to be a great lens; it's is a smidge more $$$$$ :-o/.

I always thought I would swap to a FF also but, I would how hate to give up that 10-22 lens, since the 16-35 is soooooo expensive - maybe the 17-40 can be as good but it seems to be a mixed bag on a FF body.

Rigt now, I cannot decide between those 2 bodies.... maybe the 5D-II if such a mythical creature will ever exist will change my mind... and maybe it will be so &^% expensive due to the free fall USD it will be too expensive also.... dunno.

Don't forget the Sigma 12-24 provides full frame coverage. On a 5D at 12mm, it has a significantly wider field of view than a 40D with a 10mm lens on it.

05/18/2008 10:27:24 PM · #36

OK...with the rebates coming out i'm still not sure which one i want to go with. I was thinking of picking up a package deal with the 5D and the 24-105 at Buydig for $2748. I have the EF 100-400mm IS and was wondering how that lens works with the 5D. I also have a EF-s 10-22 which obviously would have to stay with the XTI I have if I go with the 5d...on the other hand the 40D would work with all the lenses....i don't know what to do....Help!

scalvert

05/18/2008 10:50:28 PM · #37

Originally posted by wizardry:

I also have a EF-s 10-22 which obviously would have to stay with the XTI I have if I go with the 5d...on the other hand the 40D would work with all the lenses....i don't know what to do....Help!

Right there's your answer. Your 10-22 eliminates much of the wide angle advantage of a 5D and takes your 100-400 lens out to 640mm. Add to that live view, dust removal, much faster performance, highlight priority, some weather sealing and a lower price tag...

05/18/2008 10:58:19 PM · #38

Ok...what about noise...i like taking night shots and noise is a major concern. After reading and seeing some of the shots on here, the 5D seems to perform very well with Higher ISO and low noise. How is the 40D when shooting night photography? Thanks.

scalvert

05/18/2008 11:33:28 PM · #39

Originally posted by wizardry:

How is the 40D when shooting night photography?

I shot this one a few weeks ago at ISO 1600 (no noise reduction software applied). Here's another version taken much later at night at ISO 800 and somewhat underexposed, so the midtones have been lightened.

05/19/2008 12:08:35 AM · #40

Great shots Shannon...you've almost got me sold...can u give me the details of the lens, shutter and F stop you used with those shots...just curious. Thanks.

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by wizardry:
How is the 40D when shooting night photography?

I shot this one a few weeks ago at ISO 1600 (no noise reduction software applied). Here's another version taken much later at night at ISO 800 and somewhat underexposed, so the midtones have been lightened.

scalvert

05/19/2008 12:20:57 AM · #41

They were taken handheld at 10mm with a Canon 10-22 lens (on different days). The first was f/3.5 at 1/45 second and the darker one was f/4.5 for 1/6 second.

Tez

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

05/19/2008 06:39:10 AM · #42

I have to say I was amazed at the noise handling qualities of the 40d. I shot a 3 hour pro wrestling event on ISO 1600 and all the shots were totally usable. Compared to the xti it's phenomenal. Totally gob smacking stuff. You can walk around all day using ISO 1600 and feel confident that the images will turn out as you planned.

(F/2.2, ISO 1600, 1/125)

There was a 'shoot-out' thing between the 5d, 40d and 400d at high ISO. The 5d won but by such a slight margin.

Having said that, i love the 40d because of the functional improvements over the 5d such as the cleaning sensor and the frame rate (i need that for sports) and it's built of the same stuff so theoretically has the same durability. I also think the shutter lag is less evident but that's personal opinion!

If i had the money, i would wait for the 5d mk2 thingy that's (hopefully) around the corner because that will be the 5d IQ, but with all the modern R&D upgrades that the modern cameras are getting.

Or, screw that and get the 1ds Mk2 for about $3000.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

05/19/2008 10:48:40 AM · #43

Where can you get that camera for $3000?

Originally posted by Tez:

Or, screw that and get the 1ds Mk2 for about $3000.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

05/19/2008 10:53:07 AM · #44

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by wizardry:
I also have a EF-s 10-22 which obviously would have to stay with the XTI I have if I go with the 5d...on the other hand the 40D would work with all the lenses....i don't know what to do....Help!

Right there's your answer. Your 10-22 eliminates much of the wide angle advantage of a 5D and takes your 100-400 lens out to 640mm. Add to that live view, dust removal, much faster performance, highlight priority, some weather sealing and a lower price tag...

The difference between a 10mm lens on an APS-C sensor and a 12mm lens on a FF camera is astonishing.

Tez

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

05/19/2008 12:32:09 PM · #45

they go on Fred Miranda for that price sometimes. I saw one about a month ago but the guy wouldn't ship to UK. It had about 40k actuations.

ace flyman